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Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:21 pm to TheJones
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:21 pm to TheJones
quote:It wasn't a statement of generality. It was a statement on Gary's recruitment only. Yes a DC change has a big factor most of the time, which I have also said countless times on various boards. DJ may very well be a major factor w/ Gary but in all the interviews I've read by him or his mom I don't recall either 1 mentioning DJ as a major factor. Like I said, we will find out in 2 months.
Sure, but to disregard a defensive coordinator as a factor is absurd.
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:27 pm to bawbarn
quote:Respectfully asking, how doesn't it? If Gary ends up somewhere besides Michigan then that is a tangible major impact of the DJ move & I will happilily admit I'm wrong. If he ends up @ Michigan still then DJ leaving was not a tangible major impact. Seems simple to me.
hat happening won't prove anyone right or wrong
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:30 pm to ellitor
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:34 pm to jrljr
When asked about the effect of Durking leaving on Gary:
Keith responded with
Keith responded with
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Was told, not much
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:39 pm to ellitor
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Like I said, we will find out in 2 months.
No we wont
Some day you guys will realize we don't know all that much about why these kids choose X school. You can't find out everything there is to know on recruiting websites. quote:
Respectfully asking, how doesn't it? If Gary ends up somewhere besides Michigan then that is a tangible major impact of the DJ move & I will happilily admit I'm wrong. If he ends up @ Michigan still then DJ leaving was not a tangible major impact. Seems simple to me.
Maybe if the world existed in a vacuum
My challenge here is to lay off all the crap that recruiting websites force feed you and use rational thought to derive that a top 5 defensive coordinator leaving a school has an effect on recruiting top targets. That doesn't mean it will change the outcome but it puts everything in limbo until a new DC is hired. To assert otherwise because 247 doesnt have Durkin listed as a lead recruiter and because Durkin isn't specifically named in the upsetting amount of interviews you've watched of Gary is serving your thanksgiving meal without a dinner plate.
This window of time in between Durkin leaving and a new DC being hired is extremely important and could completely shift his recruitment. Or it may not. But it is significant.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:44 pm to Weagle25
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When asked about the effect of Durking leaving on Gary:
I had to stop myself from typing Durking a thousand times
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:45 pm to TheJones
not even going to fix it
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:48 pm to TheJones
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because 247 doesnt have Durkin listed as a lead recruiter
This was all I got from your post. Durkin is a non-factor for Gary. Jones said so.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:49 pm to ellitor
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Respectfully asking, how doesn't it?
It would be like saying Gene Chizik getting fired in 2012 didn't have an impact on Carl Lawson, just because Lawson still signed with Auburn.
There is no way a defensive recruit isn't affected by the Defensive coordinator leaving.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:51 pm to bawbarn
Yall are arguing semantics....
Posted on 12/2/15 at 2:56 pm to Weagle25
I'm only trying to make you guys smarter I don't care about being right. It just irks me when I see folks spewing paysite guessing garbage and ignore common sense.
The level of detail that goes into designing a defense doesn't stop at deciding how many linebackers you're going to drop into coverage. Even if they hire a guy that uses most of the same schemes he could prioritize positions on the line completely different. His gap assignments could totally change Gary's productivity. Not saying it will change anything regarding the outcome because we'll never know all of the reasons why he'd pick Michigan in the first place
I don't care about being right. It just irks me when I see folks spewing paysite guessing garbage and ignore common sense. The level of detail that goes into designing a defense doesn't stop at deciding how many linebackers you're going to drop into coverage. Even if they hire a guy that uses most of the same schemes he could prioritize positions on the line completely different. His gap assignments could totally change Gary's productivity. Not saying it will change anything regarding the outcome because we'll never know all of the reasons why he'd pick Michigan in the first place
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:04 pm to Weagle25
Even if Durkin specifically meant very little in the recruitment of Gary, the instability and new defensive coordinator + staff could be big.
Gary's coach Patridge could get hired as a position coach somewhere
If Michigan hires a DC&DL too late or not even before NSD, Gary could have legit concerns
Gary's coach Patridge could get hired as a position coach somewhere
If Michigan hires a DC&DL too late or not even before NSD, Gary could have legit concerns
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:06 pm to TheJones
It is really easy for a kid to say immediately "I don't care about Durkin. He isn't why I'm interested in UM"
No one knows the long term domino effect Durkin leaving has and how it could affect things that actually matter to Gary
No one knows the long term domino effect Durkin leaving has and how it could affect things that actually matter to Gary
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:14 pm to TheJones
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Some day you guys will realize we don't know all that much about why these kids choose X school
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:38 pm to LanierSpots
Durkin may have bigger impact on Devin Bush Jr. Although I think he's been trending away from UM lately anyway
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:50 pm to bawbarn
quote:& I would assert his impact wasn't tangible because Carl already loved AU for AU. Yes he was in limbo for a bit but Garner sealed that the last month of that recruiting cycle when he was hired.
It would be like saying Gene Chizik getting fired in 2012 didn't have an impact on Carl Lawson, just because Lawson still signed with Auburn.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:52 pm to ellitor
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& I would assert that he didn't. Pelton had the bigger impact.
Do you not see the connection between Chizik being fired and Pelton leaving?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:53 pm to TheJones
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Some day you guys will realize we don't know all that much about why these kids choose X school
Except Ole Miss. They got our bagman to transfer to Oxford
Posted on 12/2/15 at 3:54 pm to GenesChin
See my edited post.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 4:00 pm to ellitor
I guess what I am saying is any impact anything more than minimal if it does not change the course outcome? In the past if I was the one saying it would be an impact even if there was not an outcome change people would have bitched at me for being to anal.
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