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Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:46 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 11/23/15 at 1:46 pm to GenesChin
You're making a silly argument. I'm not even going to counter it.
It would be flat out stupid to fire him.
Only two seasons with 11+ wins in 8 years with another 2 10 win seasons added on. Give me a fricking break. Oh and if that wasn't impressive enough, that's only if you ignore the 3 11 win seasons in his first three years and a National Title
It would be flat out stupid to fire him.
Only two seasons with 11+ wins in 8 years with another 2 10 win seasons added on. Give me a fricking break. Oh and if that wasn't impressive enough, that's only if you ignore the 3 11 win seasons in his first three years and a National Title
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Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:05 pm to Weagle25
I view the Les Miles situation the same as the Mark Richt. Both are great coaches and should be appreciated for their huge contributions to their FB programs. I just don't see either one truly competing for championships given their current direction.
LSU right now has an offense that has struggled for years given their talent and just downgraded with Kevin Steele from the dominant level they were at with Chavis.
ETA**: I think it is wrong to kick Les Miles (or Richt) out. They deserve better. I just think whether this year or next, both schools need to inject new blood
LSU right now has an offense that has struggled for years given their talent and just downgraded with Kevin Steele from the dominant level they were at with Chavis.
ETA**: I think it is wrong to kick Les Miles (or Richt) out. They deserve better. I just think whether this year or next, both schools need to inject new blood
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:08 pm to GenesChin
The amount of NFL talent LSU has had on offense is staggering... you'd almost have to try to be as shitty on O as LSU has been under miles.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:10 pm to GenesChin
The current direction they are in is the same exact direction they were heading in 2008-2009.
8 wins followed by 9 wins. Then he followed that with 4 straight 10 win seasons and a National Title appearance.
I think Nick Saban has made fans of other teams too quick on the trigger. Most teams can't just reload year after year like Saban seems to do.
8 wins followed by 9 wins. Then he followed that with 4 straight 10 win seasons and a National Title appearance.
I think Nick Saban has made fans of other teams too quick on the trigger. Most teams can't just reload year after year like Saban seems to do.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:12 pm to GenesChin
miles is like malzahn in the fact that he refuses to adapt. Saban knew he needed to score points moving forward so he went out and hired Lane Kiffin even though Saban hated his guts. Miles and Malzahn think their way will get the job done no matter what.
Saban seen the changes a coming he went out and got one of the best offensive minds in football to out score people.
Miles thinks he can run left run right then playaction like the days of old. We see what happened though when Bama and OleMiss stacked up on Fournette.
Malzahn is the same way if he doesn't adapt his offense to be a vericle threat he'll be gone
Saban seen the changes a coming he went out and got one of the best offensive minds in football to out score people.
Miles thinks he can run left run right then playaction like the days of old. We see what happened though when Bama and OleMiss stacked up on Fournette.
Malzahn is the same way if he doesn't adapt his offense to be a vericle threat he'll be gone
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:12 pm to lowspark12
This is the typical life cycle of coaches. It is extremely difficult to maintain success for extended periods of time and it makes guys like Urban Meyer, Saban and even someone like Gary Patterson at TCU even more impressive.
Just think of the Mack Browns, Mark Richts, Phillip Fulmer, and Jeff Tedfords of the world. All had some great years but by the ending got or look to be dumped despite elevating the program out of mediocrity
Just think of the Mack Browns, Mark Richts, Phillip Fulmer, and Jeff Tedfords of the world. All had some great years but by the ending got or look to be dumped despite elevating the program out of mediocrity
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:14 pm to Weagle25
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I think Nick Saban has made fans of other teams too quick on the trigger.
I completely agree with this.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:20 pm to Weagle25
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The current direction they are in is the same exact direction they were heading in 2008-2009.
When they hired very proven commodity DC John Chavis and their defenses became some of the most dominant in recent memory.
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I think Nick Saban has made fans of other teams too quick on the trigger
I can definitely agree with that.
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Most teams can't just reload year after year like Saban seems to do.
I agree. Most teams cant whether coaching/talent. LSU does have the talent though.
Still, LSU has made the SEC CG only once since 2007. LSU's talent is much, much better than that
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:20 pm to TigerPaw1
quote:Wasn't necesarrily to you. My posts were for whoever originally said we expected to get a number of guys. To me expected means leads. We only led for 2 therefore only expected 2. Don't get me wrong. NSD 2012 was a crappy day but the degree of it is overblown IMO. It's like the fisherman who caught a 50 lbs fish deep see fishing. A couple of years later the stories progrssed & that fish became 150 lbs.
Don't want to derail the thread but how is that at all against what I was talking about?
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:25 pm to GenesChin
quote:Willie Allen & Lowell Narcisse are Louisiana kids as were T-Reed & G-Rob.
All our LSu battles are with TX or FL kids
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:26 pm to ellitor
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Willie Allen & Lowell Narcisse are Louisiana kids as were T-Reed & G-Rob.
I think this supports my point considering that is 4 kids from 2009-2017 recruiting classes. None of of the legit Gus era battles were for LA kids
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:43 pm to Weagle25
quote:DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! It's insane to me the LSU fanbase is wanting him gone. Most of you guys are too young to remember but I remember the LSU teams from the 80s & 90s who other than a few years in that span, struggled & were mediocre at best while still having the recruiting walls around the state like they do now. Les has his flaws just like 95-99% of coaches but over all his staff develops players well and he has done very well mostly keeping up the program Saban left him. I know thgis much. If LSU does let him go he would be the first coach I would call if I were an AD looking for a coach.
I think Nick Saban has made fans of other teams too quick on the trigger. Most teams can't just reload year after year like Saban seems to do.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 2:44 pm to GenesChin
quote:You said all not most.
I think this supports my point
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:15 pm to AUtigR24
Lol Bama offenses have been worse under Lane than at any other time since 2008
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:22 pm to RandySavage
quote:Maybe butI think he's done a good job of catering to & getting the most out of Sims & Coker's limited abilities.
Lol Bama offenses have been worse under Lane than at any other time since 2008
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:27 pm to RandySavage
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Lol Bama offenses have been worse under Lane than at any other time since 2008
Ya... statistically this isn't true. He has been right around avg at Bama. Only years that they were undisputedly better than w/o Kiffen was AJ McCarron's SR year
Since 09 rankings out of 7 years (2014 Rank , 2015 Rank)
Overall
PTS/game - #3, #5
Yards/game - #1, #6
vs Ranked OPP
PTS/Game - #2, #3
YDS/game - #3, #4
3rd Down Conversion
% - #1, #7
vs Ranked - #3, #1
Red Zone
TD % - #2, #5
vs Ranked - #1, #3
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:29 pm to RandySavage
You missed the point Randy. Bama hasn't had to outscore anyone they're perfectly fine with handing off to Henry 30 times. As soon as you load up on them though Kiffin can kill you deep. You have to respect that part of their offense.
We don't have that threat nor does LSU.
We don't have that threat nor does LSU.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:30 pm to AUtigR24
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You missed the point Randy.
He also missed some facts.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 4:36 pm to AUtigR24
Goes back to my point that Gus and Les would keep trying to run at that brick wall. A main reason a lot of people are over the Less Miles era because hr refuses to adapt his strategy
Posted on 11/23/15 at 5:36 pm to GenesChin
They were also 19th in the nation in points per game last year w/ Sims which is in the top 16% in the nation.
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