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Posted on 10/24/15 at 12:03 am to
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 12:03 am to
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Jay Tate basically said Evans likely won't have an offer until around the Iron bowl of he gets one
And that goes for nearly every juco QB every year. We did not offer Cam til mid December.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 12:09 am to
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That makes sense besides the fact that we just offered a guy.

Are you saying we'll use Fanklin as a WR?
It's possible we do but that's not what Gene is saying. Also contrary to what Franklin said it may not be a real offer. It may still be a noncommitable offer.

Also Gus and Rhett may have finally decided to not just try to adapt to any QB they can get and start trying to get exclusively dual guys since they have been more comfortable coaching that style. Evan has great pass numbers but I'm not sure how good a runner he is.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 12:18 am to
That has to be what he's saying for it to make any sense. You can't make the argument that Evans doesn't have an offer from us because JUCO QBs don't get offered until later when we have a JUCO QB with an offer.

Obviously it might not be a real offer but for discussion we assume it is a real committable offer.

The argument is why does Franklin have an offer when Evans doesn't

The answer would have to be:
A. Talent/fit
B. Academics
C. Character issues
D. Franklin is being offered as a ATH/WR rather than a QB

B and C don't seem to apply here so it's really down to two reasons. I've heard nothing about him being offered as an ATH/WR type so I assume it's Talent/fit
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 12:22 am
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 1:05 am to
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Evan has great pass numbers but I'm not sure how good a runner he is.


Air Force run a flexbone triple option offense, so he must be able to run if they recruited him.

Granted that is not what we run, but the idea is similar.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 1:07 am to
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Also Gus and Rhett may have finally decided to not just try to adapt to any QB they can get and start trying to get exclusively dual guys since they have been more comfortable coaching that style.


This is fine but I think White could be a really good quarterback for us. I hate to see us essentially throw him away bringing in a guy for one or two years that is just another runner. If we decide to go the exclusive run first quarterback mold, then go ahead and tell White and Queen to transfer out and clear some roster room.

I am starting to think that Gus just isn't creative enough to run the ball without the running quarterback.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 3:54 am to
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I am starting to think that Gus just isn't creative enough to run the ball without the running quarterback.



Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 4:48 am to
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I am starting to think that Gus just isn't creative enough to run the ball without the running quarterback.


Then how did Ben Tate run for 1300 yards in 2009? Odd... The offense was pretty even that year. We passed for 220 yards a game and ran for 212.

Barber is on pace to have a better season than Tate did. Kerryon and Roc combined are putting up the same numbers that O-Mac did off the bench in 2009.

White so far has been much more accurate passing than Todd was in 09 and definitely has more "it" factor and potential than Todd.

I think you guys are looking too much into recruiting these JUCO guys. White is our guy and if we bring in a JUCO QB then it's for depth. If White goes down next year we would have JJ who is a head case, redshirt freshman Tyler Queen, and true freshman Woody Barrett. Both those freshmen are projects and I wouldn't be surprised to see JJ move to TE this offseason, especially if one of these JUCO guys comes in.
Posted by Warfarer
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 6:18 am to
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Barber is on pace to have a better season than Tate did. Kerryon and Roc combined are putting up the same numbers that O-Mac did off the bench in 2009.



let me rephrase then, I don't think he is creative enough to have a top tier running attack without a running quarterback. Currently, we are hovering around the 50th mark in the country in rushing per game. Right now, we are averaging about 183 yards per game, that is nearly 30 yards a game less than 2009.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 7:11 am to
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Then how did Ben Tate run for 1300 yards in 2009? Odd... The offense was pretty even that year. We passed for 220 yards a game and ran for 212.


Honestly I think it's because we were still running a true HUNH then and were one of the first to do so so defenses had not adjusted the way they have now.
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 7:50 am to
Keith and Chris Nee (FSU 247)Both cb'd John Franklin to AU
Posted by AUtigR24
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 7:58 am to
JUCO DE Jonathan Kongbo III will visit AU November 21st. Alabama offered him yesterday as well.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:27 am to
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That has to be what he's saying for it to make any sense.


We likely are recruiting Franklin as an athlete who will get a shot at QB just like Jason SSmith did

If we offer Evans it is just to play QB. You don't offer JUCO QBs for depth
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 9:40 am to
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@Cassidy_Rob: No. 2 overall prospect Rashan Gary discusses possible official visit destinations and more. LINK LINK

Is he visiting Auburn or nah?
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:05 am to
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You can't make the argument that Evans doesn't have an offer from us because JUCO QBs don't get offered until later when we have a JUCO QB with an offer.
I didn't. Read this paragraph again.
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Also Gus and Rhett may have finally decided to not just try to adapt to any QB they can get and start trying to get exclusively dual guys since they have been more comfortable coaching that style. Evan has great pass numbers but I'm not sure how good a runner he is.
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but for discussion we assume it is a real committable offer.
I rarely make that assumption. I almost always wait til a AU reporter gets info on a recruit being a take. AUC & AUR have not reported the status of the offer yet.
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The answer would have to be:
A. Talent/fit
B. Academics
C. Character issues
D. Franklin is being offered as a ATH/WR rather than a QB
You missed one which was implied in my previous post.

E. QB style. The staff may be all in finally on dual QBs and may consider JF3 to be the better running threat.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:13 am to
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if we bring in a JUCO QB then it's for depth.
No. You bring in a juco QB with the intent to give him every chance to win the starting job in over 90% of the cases
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I wouldn't be surprised to see JJ move to TE
...No
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:14 am to
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Honestly I think it's because we were still running a true HUNH then and were one of the first to do so so defenses had not adjusted the way they have now.
DING! DING! DING! DING! Winner winner Chicken dinner.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:16 am to
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Is he visiting Auburn or nah?
Yes. He's been scheduled for the Iron Bowl since before the season started.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:19 am to
Updating Rahshaun Smith on the target post. LSU & Clemson lead. Will OV AU for the Iron Bowl
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 10:44 am to
I really like this new Nega-E. Welcome to the Dark Side brother.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/24/15 at 11:03 am to
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I didn't. Read this paragraph again

Genes did

Like I said you make the assumption just for the sake of discussion. It doesn't matter if it's true or not.

No I didn't miss style. That goes in Talent/fit
This post was edited on 10/24/15 at 11:43 am
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