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re: 2014 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:50 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:50 pm to lowspark12
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Watson has been committed for some time
does not matter! See Dee Liner for reference! Lol
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Posted on 6/3/13 at 2:53 pm to ellitor
don't feed the troll.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:50 pm to Rabern57
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As far as the players only waiting on bama's attention, maybe they will see that they are only being used as a backup plan and will be pushed aside unless things go a certain way. And that will continue even if they sign with saban and go to bama.
Have you watched the Auburn/Alabama recruiting the past few years?
This is somewhat flawed so far.
Basically, Bama gets what they want right now.
We get the scraps
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:54 pm to LanierSpots
Kyle Allen (4th ranked pro-style qb) commits to aTm....from domino effect reasoning, that would probably scratch aTm completely off the list, and leave Bama, LSU, and us...
Posted on 6/3/13 at 3:58 pm to tigerboi256
quote:Ohio St. is a player also and after what Ole Miss has pulled the last year plus I am not counting them out for any recruit they offer. If Bama takes Cornwell it looks to be between us, LSU, tOSU and Ole Miss.
Kyle Allen (4th ranked pro-style qb) commits to aTm....from domino effect reasoning, that would probably scratch aTm completely off the list, and leave Bama, LSU, and us...
Posted on 6/3/13 at 4:11 pm to LanierSpots
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Have you watched the Auburn/Alabama recruiting the past few years?
This is somewhat flawed so far.
Basically, Bama gets what they want right now.
We get the scraps
What I said wasn't flawed. I said maybe the recruits will wise up and quit falling for the crap. Otherwise plenty of talent will keep wasting away in D2 after Saban processes them out. Even signing and enrolling doesn't save you. It just means you are one of the first that will be processed when they need room next year.
I would be very skeptical of anything the coaches say at the last minute and not just go somewhere because some coach says "Oh, well I guess we'll take you since no one else wants to come here.". Especially if you are good enough to go anywhere and some other big schools have been on you from day one. If you are a no name player and get a big offer as a last resort then I would jump on the chance over a d2 or small school.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 8:54 pm to Rabern57
2014 4* QB Quinten Flowers shined today at AU camp. 6' 200lbs runs a 4.40 40. Has offers from Bama and UT both obviously non committable. Wouldn't mind having him as a back up and possible future WR.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 9:13 pm to Rabern57
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Otherwise plenty of talent will keep wasting away in D2 after Saban processes them out.
You do realize that the ratio of players they sign every year to the number actually process is not that high right?
A lot of guys do transfer because they see no future playing time and the coaches probably tell them that. If the recruits didn't look at the depth chart, that isn't Saban processing them that is the recruits not being able to compete. Probably don't want those guys anyways
I would wager that nearly all of the guys who legit get "processed" are guys that are not particularly good and are attitude/team problems. Most teams don't process stand up kids who help the team get better in practice and don't cause trouble. Bama included
Stop speaking the stupid Auburn talking points. Saban is pretty clear with kids that they are there to win, it is a business, and they want the best. If the kid believes they are the best and were wrong and doesn't play, it is on them not Saban. They took a risky investment not Saban. Every player knows they can go to lower schools and be a superstar there but they choose not to.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:36 pm to GenesChin
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You do realize that the ratio of players they sign every year to the number actually process is not that high right?
Actually it is extremely high and absolutely has to be the highest in the nation of any college team the past 4 years. They oversign between 8-12 and cut 8-12 each year. No one else is even close to that consistantly. So, yes, their ratio of players processed or cut is extremely high and higher than any other school since saban got there.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 10:51 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I am talking about straight process. I mean the guys they force out.
People transferring because they suck too much and want playing time is not processing.
Making room is processing. Probably "process" 2-3 a year max
People transferring because they suck too much and want playing time is not processing.
Making room is processing. Probably "process" 2-3 a year max
Posted on 6/3/13 at 11:09 pm to GenesChin
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Stop speaking the stupid Auburn talking points. Saban is pretty clear with kids that they are there to win, it is a business, and they want the best. If the kid believes they are the best and were wrong and doesn't play, it is on them not Saban. They took a risky investment not Saban. Every player knows they can go to lower schools and be a superstar there but they choose not to.
Saban says whatever it takes to gets the kids he wants to sign there and then decides which ones he wants after they are stuck. It is just as good to keep a star player from a rival school and force them out later when you a free spot and no one on the board that will likely make it on the field for you anyways.
They can claim they are transferring for whatever reason or getting kicked off the team but that too is what is coming out of bama's mouth. They are not going to come out and say they are getting rid of players to make room for the new class. Saban doesn't have 5 or 6 starting RB spots for the all the ones he signed and he ain't telling them you can come but you are going to be 6th string and them still come running like that.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 11:34 pm to Rabern57
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They can claim they are transferring for whatever reason or getting kicked off the team but that too is what is coming out of bama's mouth
We just had two players transfer out but definitely seems legit of their own accord. But Bama? Ya frick them they be processing. No way a player would want to go somewhere where they stand a shot of playing instead of sitting 2-3 on the depth chart.
Not like we just had two guys transfer out in Harris Gaston and CHris Landrum to go to a program where they will be difference makers instead of giving up their college career to ride the bench.
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 11:42 pm to Rabern57
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Saban doesn't have 5 or 6 starting RB spots for the all the ones he signed and he ain't telling them you can come but you are going to be 6th string and them still come running like that.
You do realize that Alabama has consistently run a 3 RB rotation wtih one player getting about 150+ carries, second string getting about 90-110 carries and a third string getting around 50 carries. Those stats hold up from 2008-2011 and in 2012 they increased the carries for their 2 back.
Considering they signed 4 RBs, one RB in Alvin Kamara is projected to have potential in a slot receiver. Derrick Henry was a candidate to play LB if he didnt' work out at RB. But he turned out to be a stud RB in campThere was a distinct possibilty that Tyren Jones and Altee Tenpenny were the only RBs in this class.
If you run a 3 RB system and you don't have 3 scholarship RBs plus additional running backs for depth, you are a fricking stupid coach.
If you play an Alabama style offensive scheme, where you run the ball for about 3000 yards per season on that many carries. The risk of injury to RBs is always extremely high (TRich, Lacy and Ingram have all had significant injuries during their time at Bama) So to not have proper quality depth is fricking stupid. Also, all the RBs who have waiting their turn have seen carries for the most part unless they sucked or got injured
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 6/3/13 at 11:46 pm to GenesChin
The tinfoil-types are gonna circle the wagons no matter what facts you put in front of them.
Just let it be.
Just let it be.
Posted on 6/3/13 at 11:48 pm to TheSandman
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The tinfoil-types are gonna circle the wagons no matter what facts you put in front of them.
Just let it be.
I know I just don't see how all these people make it seem like the Alabama coaching staff gives that much of a shite about our rivalry right now. They are competing for NCs and our team is cleary inferior. Logically that would imply that they neither have scholarships to waste nor care enough to waste them if they did just to screw us, a team that has won 4/5 against us with the exception of one of the greatest combacks of all time. They have also made it look easy for most of the quarters they play us
This post was edited on 6/3/13 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:28 am to GenesChin
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We just had two players transfer out but definitely seems legit of their own accord. But Bama? Ya frick them they be processing.
Gus didn't recruit them. The players leaving bama are the ones Saban recruited.
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:31 am to Rabern57
I love inferiority complexes
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:33 am to GenesChin
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I just don't see how all these people make it seem like the Alabama coaching staff gives that much of a shite about our rivalry right now. They are competing for NCs and our team is cleary inferior. Logically that would imply that they neither have scholarships to waste nor care enough to waste them if they did just to screw us, a team that has won 4/5 against us with the exception of one of the greatest combacks of all time. They have also made it look easy for most of the quarters they play us
You can defend Bama and Saban all day but Saban is known for processing players and that is not just tinfoil-types saying that. He is known for it because he does it. As far as facts he also has a high ratio of 4 and 5 star players to go bust and amount to nothing. You thing think he is telling them that too?
We were talking about QBs and McCarron is the only QB saban signed that has amounted to anything. And that has nothing to do with us losing to them or how much we sucked under Chizik.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:35 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:33 am to Rabern57
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Rabern57
So you are telling me that Auburn will never ever have a player transfer for playing time in the next 5 years?
I hope we are not that shitty
ETA: Outside of the medical hardship waivers which are sketchy sometimes (which other schools use too), Bama doesn't do anything other schools don't do. They just get a lot more highly ranked kids than other schools that actually have the talent to transfer elsewhere and contribute.
We have starters (looking at you Jake Holland) who probably couldn't find a job at most D2 schools. You think our backups are quality enough to transfer and mean something?
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:36 am
Posted on 6/4/13 at 12:37 am to GenesChin
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So you are telling me that Auburn will never ever have a player transfer for playing time in the next 5 years?
We will most likely have players transfer for playing time. Even ones Gus recruited a few years down the road. Lots of schools do. Only time will tell if Gus makes a habit of it too and becomes known for doing it.
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We have starters (looking at you Jake Holland) who probably couldn't find a job at most D2 schools. You think our backups are quality enough to transfer and mean something?
That comes from bad coaching. Our team is not well coached up right now so I don't know. The ones transferring around the country are not blowing it up either.
This post was edited on 6/4/13 at 12:43 am
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