Started By
Message

re: 15-16 AU Hoops Season Thread 11-20 (5-13) {we beat UK} Disaster over

Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35317 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:38 pm to
Bruce Pearl was a much bigger deal than all three of those guys. We aren't meeting expectations. DWI
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Why did we let Purchase transfer to Hawaii? Would be nice to have another big man to run out there at least to absorb fouls.



Purchase played a stretch 4/post and when he got pushed out, he was expected to never see the court. We had 8 guys who could fill SF/PF/C and a solid 3 deep for all positions


SF- TJ Lang//Purifoy/Granger/Dunas
PF- Harris/Granger/Spencer
C- Bowers/Trayvon Reed/ Spencer


After Purchase transferred

-Bowers drank even more of his own koolaid
-Reed didn't enroll in the fall
-Purifoy ineligible (at time we expected him to qualify)
-Lang injured
-Dunans injured


Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Bruce Pearl was a much bigger deal than all three of those guys. We aren't meeting expectations. DWI


He also inherited a much bigger dumpster fire than all three of those guys and had a showcause that restricted recruiting.

That is before you even consider that 6/12 scholarship players have missed MULTIPLE GAMES this year.



Randy, your argument is stupid. There is a reason no one agrees with you.


DWI
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:50 pm to
I would say Martin was on the same level as Bruce. His KState teams were legit.
Posted by FratAU
Alabama
Member since Mar 2015
140 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

None of our players have played together before, none of our players have experience with the system


This is an excuse used often by bad teams. In college basketball 1 kid can come in and change the outlook of a team. Freshman classes can take a bad team to a tournament team. It happens every year. As far as "system" goes you can install a new offense in a 1 week in basketball.

Our problem is we just aren't very good team wise.

If you look at what makes a good basketball team we don't check any of the boxes

Rebounding - nope
Defense - nope
Inside Game - nope

If you're going to suck at one or at 3 of those things then you better be great in other areas. We aren't great at anything. We were good at shooting the 3 until the last few games.

Just a bad team all around. Hard to watch at time the level of dysfunction out there


Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

This is an excuse used often by bad teams. In college basketball 1 kid can come in and change the outlook of a team.

LSU agrees with this post
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Freshman classes can take a bad team to a tournament team.

Most definitely... assuming you recruit at UK's level.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

I would say Martin was on the same level as Bruce. His KState teams were legit.




Randy wouldn't know, he never watched College Basketball before
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

LSU agrees with this post
And even then they're just now starting to come together
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:25 pm to
Could you imagine what these guys would be saying if we had the next Lebron and had the RPI and record of LSU?
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:27 pm to
Probably the same thing Tiger Rant has been saying for the past month.. Many expletives and fire Johnny posts without much content
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Freshman classes can take a bad team to a tournament team. It happens every year



I'd love to hear about all these bad teams was able to recruit a great freshman class and lead them to the NCAA tournament.

There are no teams as historically bad as Auburn that were able to recruit at that high of a level and put together a team to make the tournament.

Not without cheating
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24039 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:38 pm to
You don't have any idea what you're taking about.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:38 pm to
quote:


quote:

This is an excuse used often by bad teams. In college basketball 1 kid can come in and change the outlook of a team.


LSU agrees with this post



So let's just completely ignore key pieces

-5* Freshman Antonio Blakely
-returning 11+ PPG starters Keith Hornsby and Tim Quarterman
-Top 50 HS player transfer from UArizona Craig Victor

If Johnny Jones wasn't a bad coach, LSU would make the tournament even without Ben Simmons. Jones is so bad they may not make it with him



ETA**: Jones lost to Auburn twice last year despite having TWO All SEC post players going up against backup PG Malcolm Canada in the post
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 3:51 pm
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:53 pm to
Sorry for the confusion. My post was in jest. I wasn't actually agreeing with his point.
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:21 pm to
You sir, are delusional.

1) You have no clue/Frame of reference on which to base this assertion. You have little knowledge of other sports. But you don't know shite about basketball.

2) To think that even with Kentucky level recruiting, that the culture would change in less than two years, is the epitome of the word.

Look it up. The board begs you.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

In college basketball 1 kid can come in and change the outlook of a team.
And if 1 good player can make that much positive impact, think about the negative impact of not having 3 of your top 6 players much of the season.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37839 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:31 pm to
quote:


And if 1 good player can make that much positive impact, think about the negative impact of not having 3 of your top 6 players much of the season.



That's the thing, there is no player in college basketball right now that is so good as to be surrounded by scrubs and make the tournament from a major conference.


Even if we had Ben Simmons, Buddy Hield or Denzel Valentine, we wouldn't be a surefire tournament team given our injuries/post issues
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 4:32 pm
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35317 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:01 pm to
There is not a single person on this board who thought when Pearl was hired we would be just as terrible two years in as we ever were under our two previous coaches that we all couldn't stand.

I know you guys aren't that dumb, so it's obviously just denial. It's ok to give an honest assessment of where we stand. We suck. Bad. As bad as ever.

Can Bruce turn it around? Maybe, probably, hopefully but he has not earned his money or hype so far without question. It's not arguable or deniable and no amount of childish insults directed at me will change it.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24039 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:06 pm to
Well, unlike you, we can look at more than just wins/losses to gauge where our program is right now. Ultimately, that will determine everything, but this wasn't a two year rebuild and definitely not a two year rebuild given our injury situation. I'd be more in agreement if we were performing terrible with our full roster, but we don't have that right now. I'm sorry you're having a problem seeing the big picture.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 6:08 pm
first pageprev pagePage 132 of 209Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter