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re: 2019 Atlanta Braves season long in-game thread

Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:22 am to
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:22 am to
Just saw this on Talking Chop:
Pre-season predictions from MLB Network Radio "Experts"

None picked the Braves to even be in the playoffs.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:56 am to
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'91 Pendleton hype train


love me some TP (both the player and for my bunghole), but is there any doubt that Barry Bonds should have won MVP? The only thing that TP had over him was batting average.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 11:07 am to
Pendleton had a good narrative and people hated Bonds back even in 91.

Pendleton also won the MVP but was not an All Star which is wild.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Pendleton had a good narrative and people hated Bonds back even in 91.


I understand WHY he won it, but there is no doubt that he SHOULDN'T have won it. The numbers weren't even particularly close.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 7:18 pm to
Camargo looks hurt bad

Foul ball off of the side of his lower leg, he's been helped off the field.

Ortega is replacing him.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 7:20 pm
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 7:25 pm to
Tyler Flowers found his stick.

3-0 Braves in the 3rd.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:30 pm to
Immaculate Inning from Chris Martin.

First Braves Immaculate Inning since... wait for it... Buddy Carlisle in 2007.

Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:38 pm to
I’m obviously biased but it sure seemed like the braves got the short end of the strike zone both pitching and hitting tonight.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:40 pm to
Yeah I thought so too but Flowers wasn't really helping behind the plate.

Slick play by Donaldson to end it.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:04 pm to
Crazy that only 92 pitchers have ever done it... Per Wikipedia
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:09 pm to
Yeah I thought I heard them say there have only been 99 immaculate innings so apparently a couple guys did it more than once. That seems impossibly low considering there are close to 45,000 innings in the major leagues every year.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 10:12 pm
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:31 am to
I could have sworn that Kimbrel did it a few times, but I'd be wrong.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:29 am to
AJC piece praising Anthopoulos. What do we think?

LINK
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13287 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:35 am to
AA did exactly what he said he would do, and we have a team on the verge of 100 wins because of it. at all the idiot fans in the offseason/spring training/early regular season bitching about "not spending" and "not doing anything"
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:58 am to
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AA did exactly what he said he would do, and we have a team on the verge of 100 wins because of it. at all the idiot fans in the offseason/spring training/early regular season bitching about "not spending" and "not doing anything"

To be fair, he didn’t make any moves during the offseason, despite fan outcry, and our bullpen was hot garbage and lost us several games early on.

AA did make some nice in-season moves, but we all knew the BP needed addressing prior to the season. It did work out for the best, so I’d say the fans and AA were both right to a degree.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13287 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:10 am to
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To be fair, he didn’t make any moves during the offseason, despite fan outcry, and our bullpen was hot garbage and lost us several games early on.


that's not really being fair. again, he did exactly what he said he'd do.

1. they signed Donaldson and McCann during the offseason. How is that "nothing".

2. I would imagine that greased the skids for the Keuchel deal during the offseason as well.

3. I think they clearly wanted to see what the bullpen arms looked like before making drastic moves. I think it worked out with Luke. If the fans had their way, he would have never suited up again. he has turned into a good piece. I think they also wanted to see if some of the younger starters had what it took to succeed in the pen. I think that failed (especially with Touki). With many of the big ticket FA and trade acquisition bullpen arms failing this year, this was the correct move. We were able to see what worked and what didn't (turned out to be most of the pen didn't work) and we used the money that we had saved to fill those gaps. We acquired 4 bullpen arms in trades that have all paid off in a big way.

4. who cares about fan outcry? the fan opinion means nothing.

5. we all knew the BP needed addressing? maybe, but I'd counter that no one ever knows how bullpen arms will fare from one season to the next. it was smart to see how they would do to start off and then go from there. We're on our way to 100 wins, so no one will convince me otherwise that AA's approach in the offseason was the wrong way to go about it.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 10:11 am
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Dallas Keuchel @kidkeuchy · 1h Happy birthday twitterless, Freddie Freeman! The big 3-0.


Freddie doesn’t tweet often and responded with

LINK

Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
1251 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

but we all knew the BP needed addressing prior to the season. It did work out for the best, so I’d say the fans and AA were both right to a degree.


Not really.

There was absolutely no way to know that Sobotka, Minter, Carle, Biddle, Venters, Vizcaino, et el. were ALL going to turn into trash right from the start. Not to mention the insanely juiced ball skewing HR numbers and poorly performing bullpens league-wide (this is the first time in ages since relievers are collectively putting up a worse ERA than starters).

And most of the big-time free agent relief pitchers signed in the offseason the last few seasons have been busts. It's an intensely volatile position. AA has handled things well.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3898 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 4:34 pm to
Verlander has done it 3 times I think.

For perspective, there have been about 300 no hitters, but only 99 immaculate innings.
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