re: We need more horses

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LSU just gave up the most runs in CWS history.

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And we're watching on TV

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DaleDenton

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The aggies made zero improvement joining the SEC. You can look at the records when they were in the Big 12 and the and SEC and they are a mirror in mediocrity. Texas has a soft and lazy culture, they couldn't dominate an inferior Big 12. Unless they grow some balls real soon then they will struggle in the SEC. Oklahoma and the sooner fans are much tougher than the Texas fans. They will have a better time in adjustments but the days of winning a conference title each year is over and they sure aren't going to dethrone Bama or Georgia. The worst enemy of Arkansas is themselves and no one else.

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spot on. The Aggies didn’t magically get better when they joined the sec, other than when they had manziel, petrino was just 100x the coach Bert or Morris was. As good as Pittman has been it’s still amazing to me that he didn’t flame out spectacularly and if you remember we could’ve had norvell but decided to pass because of his “history”. Now he’s got Florida state looking at close to a pre season top 10 team and possible playoff berth. We are our own worst enemy in football. We’re still in the sec and there’s plenty of great football coaches who’d cut their own dick off to get a chance at the head gig of any middle of the road sec program.

Pretty sure he’s referencing the Oral Roberts roster.

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Coaching for every other athletic program on the same campus.

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Do you even basketball?

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I harbor no illusions that we can ever again win a national title in football. Not gonna happen.

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We need Arkansas high school football to come up in a gigantic way, or to find some way to break through the top 20 in recruiting through other means. That also means maintaining the momentum, not just a one-off class like the one Bobby had. Until that happens, we're not consistently winning in football. Honestly, I don't even care about football anymore. I've felt zero excitement for the football program since Bert failed to get fired at the end of 2016. We've done precisely nothing to show we're serious about winning in football since November, 2016. I'm probably not watching a single game in the upcoming season, although I won't be able to fully escape it, living in NWA.

We're actually a dormant volcano in basketball and baseball. I fully expect to win a national championship under Musselman, provided the NBA doesn't give him another chance. I guess it's possible someone like Duke or Kansas could lure him away, but I personally think we'd pony up the dough to keep him.

Baseball… I'm not sure what we need beyond better luck. That's literally all that stopped us in 2018, just the worst luck in college baseball. After that? I dunno, maybe you're right about the transfers. Maybe we need DVH to play the NIL game really well, too. Or to find someone who can when he retires.

Either way, I feel your sentiment. It's frustrating watching the rich get richer. Half the SEC has won a baseball natty since DVH got here. Regardless of the outcome of tonight's game, we were going to witness an SEC school win it's second NC since DVH was hired at Arkansas. Along with South Carolina and Vanderbilt, who already won more than once since then.

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As good as Pittman has been it’s still amazing to me that he didn’t flame out spectacularly and if you remember we could’ve had norvell but decided to pass because of his “history”. Now he’s got Florida state looking at close to a pre season top 10 team and possible playoff berth

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Norvell is also maybe the best portal coach in the country. He seems to zero in on a handful of really elite guys at key positions (mainly at DLine) and throw all his resources at 5-10 players every year instead of team like Ark, Ole Miss, etc that have to get 18-20 guys in every year just to have enough depth to survive and SEC west schedule.

Thats just the reality of playing football in this conference and ahvi G Texas and OU coming in ain't going to make things any better. Arkansas will still be a bottom third recruiter in the league and you just can't win big in CFB now without stacking your roster 5 deep across the lines with NFL players. And Arkansas just can't do that.

Baseball is another story altogether.

Basketball we will wait and see.

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LSU had a guy who would get close, not great, rarely terrible, fired him and picked up a NC in a short time.

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That guy won the NC in 2009, and then was the runner-up in 2017. Discarding the canceled 2020 season, they canned him three years after being the runner-up.

Ed O. had an even shorter leash.

I don't dislike DVH, but god damn. LSU knows what they're worth and they will NOT frick around if you act like you've earned the right to coast.

LSU has different expectations than Arkansas. Some of it goes back to the success of the 90s and it created a monster. Arkansas lacks that type of past success and don't have the same level of immense expectations.

DVH or any coach wouldn't last 10 years at LSU without a title. What they expect is insane from an Arkansas fan perspective but to an LSU fan well that is just normal.

DVH is getting older and as the years go on, the pressure continues to build on him the longer he goes without a title.

At some you point you either take a crap or get off the pot.

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All of those guys won NCs.

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That’s the point, for the most part current levels of success do not continue after a coaching change. You use the few successes as examples and ignore the disasters, which are more common