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Venables has an easy job at Clemson
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:38 am
Top 10 recruiting classes every year, great offense, weak conference, etc. Why does anyone think he would be successful here?
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:45 am to Stonehog
No.
They've had one top 10 class in the last 5 years.
Otherwise they hover in the 15-20 range.
But I don't want him either, he's been passed over a ton up to this point. Need to stick with the offensive strategy. Defensive mind isn't going to work here.
Didn't work at Florida with Muschamp and it isn't working that well at USC.
They've had one top 10 class in the last 5 years.
Otherwise they hover in the 15-20 range.
But I don't want him either, he's been passed over a ton up to this point. Need to stick with the offensive strategy. Defensive mind isn't going to work here.
Didn't work at Florida with Muschamp and it isn't working that well at USC.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:57 am to STLhog
That about sums it up STL
Posted on 11/27/17 at 10:58 am to STLhog
Umm.
Muschamp is the SEC coach of the year this year.
Lol
Muschamp is the SEC coach of the year this year.
Lol
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:02 am to BoarEd
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Umm.
Muschamp is the SEC coach of the year this year.
Lol
Umm ok. You probably think you have a point. Their schedule was a joke this year and they lost to Kentucky. No thanks.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:18 am to BoarEd
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Umm.
Muschamp is the SEC coach of the year this year.
Lol
He couldn't win at UF.
He's terrible.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:20 am to STLhog
Didn't he have an 11 win season there?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:34 am to STLhog
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Need to stick with the offensive strategy. Defensive mind isn't going to work here.
Don't understand this. Works just fine elsewhere. Saban is a defensive coach. Smart is a defensive coach. Patterson is a defensive coach. Clemson is Louisville without Venables.
There may be a lot more players, playing the offense everyone seems to want to go to, but there are also many, many more colleges recruiting those players to run it. People want to say we didn't have the horses to run an Alabama/LSU type offense, but somehow we're going to get the kids to run some kind of spread, better than almost literally everyone else.
And a defensive mind isn't going to work here? How could anyone possibly know that? I guess I've only been watching the Hogs since the Holtz era, but can anyone tell me when we've actually had a defensive minded coach? Hatfield? I'll take his 9-10 wins per year.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:35 am to BoarEd
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Muschamp had an 11 win season at Florida.
Sometimes I think you guys have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. It's like you guys just say shite to be saying something. Right or wrong.
Sometimes I think you guys have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. It's like you guys just say shite to be saying something. Right or wrong.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:50 am to troyt37
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I guess I've only been watching the Hogs since the Holtz era, but can anyone tell me when we've actually had a defensive minded coach? Hatfield? I'll take his 9-10 wins per year.
Well, Bielema was a defensive coordinator. So he is a defensive coach. But it's obvious the dude isn't very good at building a roster, and his philosophy has little to do with his failure here as a coach. I mean, he got within a point of beating Alabama and should have beat them if not for a fumbled TD in that game. He shut out and shite stomped LSU and Ole Miss back to back.
He showed his philosophy can win here. His failures were administrative.
People who want to see their cult leader come back and coach here are being disengenous and trying to say this is evidence a defensive coach won't succeed here.
It's of course absurd.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:50 am to BoarEd
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Muschamp had an 11 win season at Florida.
He also had a 4 win season and lost to an FCS school...
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Sometimes I think you guys have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
Sweet irony!
You realize Muschamp got fired right?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:53 am to Stonehog
Saban missed a bowl game his first year at Bama, didn't he? I may be wrong, but I seem to remember he went 5-7 in year one. According to your logic that means the guy is a bum.
The assertion that Muschamp couldn't win at Florida is incorrect.
He was fired because Florida would rather score a lot of points win or lose than win ugly.
Firing their latest coach off two SEC title games is another example.
The assertion that Muschamp couldn't win at Florida is incorrect.
He was fired because Florida would rather score a lot of points win or lose than win ugly.
Firing their latest coach off two SEC title games is another example.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:55 am to BoarEd
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He showed his philosophy can win here.
And to prove this, your example is a 6-6 season...
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:55 am to troyt37
It's easier to scheme around talent defenciencies on offense than on defense. That's why we need an offensive guy. Yeah the programs that can recruit top 15/10 classes can be a defense focused team, but pretty much no one else can outside of Patterson. It's easier for the offense to attack weak links (low talent players) in a defense than vice versa.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:55 am to BoarEd
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He was fired because Florida would rather score a lot of points win or lose than win ugly.
You may want to take a look at Muschamp's record at Florida.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:57 am to BoarEd
No offense but that Saban argument/analogy might be the dumbest thing I've read on here. Also, he went 7-6.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 11:58 am
Posted on 11/27/17 at 11:59 am to Porcine Human
Clemson wins despite not recruiting at an elite level.
It's just another reason why they're considering Venables.
Stonehog and co are gonna be very disappointed. Lol
It's just another reason why they're considering Venables.
Stonehog and co are gonna be very disappointed. Lol
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:05 pm to BoarEd
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Stonehog and co are gonna be very disappointed. Lol
Haha ok. Just for the record, your proof that a defensive minded coach can win at Arkansas is what Will Muschamp did at Florida. A coach who averaged about 7 wins at one of the easiest places to recruit in the country. And you accuse other people of not knowing what they're talking about. Are you insane?
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:16 pm to BoarEd
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Saban missed a bowl game his first year at Bama, didn't he? I may be wrong, but I seem to remember he went 5-7 in year one. According to your logic that means the guy is a bum.
The assertion that Muschamp couldn't win at Florida is incorrect.
He was fired because Florida would rather score a lot of points win or lose than win ugly.
Firing their latest coach off two SEC title games is another example.
Did you even look at his shitty arse record there?
2011 Florida 7–6 3–5 3rd (Eastern) W Gator
2012 Florida 11–2 7–1 T–1st (Eastern) L Sugar† 10 9
2013 Florida 4–8 3–5 5th (Eastern)
2014 Florida 6–5 4–4 3rd (Eastern) Birmingham[note 1]
Florida: 28–21 17–15
4-8 and then 6-5 is extremely worthy of firing at UF. His recruiting was shite and he was in over his head.
Funny the dude who said we were going to "beat UNCs arse" is calling out posters for being full of shite.
Posted on 11/27/17 at 12:19 pm to Stonehog
I didn't bring Muschamp into this conversation. I made a rebuttal to StlHogs's second post in this thread.
You don't think too well, do you?
You don't think too well, do you?
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 12:20 pm
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