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Too much emphasis on the starting quarterback

Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:18 am
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:18 am
We went through all of this last year, and it didn't matter one bit. Throughout fall camp, every day we had to ask if the starter would be Storey or Kelley. Chad finally decided on Kelley, but by the second game Storey was starting. I know our media doesn't have a lot to talk about, but they're doing the exact same thing as last year even though Kelley lost the starting job after one game.

It really doesn't matter who the starter is against Portland State. Let's see how that game goes, then we can talk about who starts against Ole Miss, which is a much more important game.
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:26 am to
Agreed. People keep saying we need to name an established starter but no one will be established until we see them perform well against Ole Miss. What they do in practice matters very little when the actual games start.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:31 am to
Yep. We could probably just hand the ball of 70 straight times and beat Portland State going away. Let’s see who steps up against Ole Miss before we freak out.
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 10:53 am to
It’s gonna be NS and we will be better off for it.

Everybody knows it...our fan base is just stupid and need to bitch and gripe about not being announced and about the coach speak...Well our message boarders any way
Posted by GoldenSombrero
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 12:02 pm to
Yeah I don't see what the big deal is or what difference it makes who's the starter and when it's announced. I said this last year and I'll say it again. No offense to the CK and TS, but I'm not sure either of them would have started for any other team in the SEC or any Razorback team since Nutt was here.

I feel good that whomever starts, even JSJ, will be better equipped to run the offense than last year.

I know QB is a little different, but I don't understand why making a switch at QB or subbing in a QB mid game has to be such a big deal. Nearly every other player on the field gets subbed out at some point, particularly if they are struggling that game. Many don't notice and no one makes a big deal about it. QB get's subbed for and everyone loses their mind.
Posted by Columbia
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 12:35 pm to
I don’t think it’s a big deal, but Chad could have prevented all this up front. He finally got irritated with Bob Holt the other day, but from the get go, he could have just said look we are going to have a tight QB competition and I won’t be naming a starter till Gameday. Maybe he’s just trying to generate some excitement.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 12:38 pm to
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We went through all of this last year, and it didn't matter one bit. Throughout fall camp, every day we had to ask if the starter would be Storey or Kelley. Chad finally decided on Kelley, but by the second game Storey was starting. I know our media doesn't have a lot to talk about, but they're doing the exact same thing as last year even though Kelley lost the starting job after one game.

It really doesn't matter who the starter is against Portland State. Let's see how that game goes, then we can talk about who starts against Ole Miss, which is a much more important game.


I see your points Stone, but I look at it from a different perspective...

Just gathering info from camp and the words of Morris, it seems like these QBs(Starkel & Hicks) are more mentally capable. The biggest difference I think this year is going to be the installation of almost all of his offense. For one reason or another, Morris seemed to be handcuffed a bit last year because they did not(or could not) install most all of the offense he wanted. I think we can all agree that Cole Kelley wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. Storey may have also had issues with retaining the playbook as well. Not sure, just assumption.

I think the QB is a very important part of the Morris offense just simply on retaining the information from the playbook. 5 star recruits or not, I think that is the biggest difference we will see from Starkel or Hicks. Both are seasoned guys. May not be the best QBs in the league, but know the offense. There have been no comments made about Starkel not grasping anything. That leads me to believe he has been studying the playbook since he committed and he is right there with Hicks in his knowledge of the offense.

I know it is just going to be Portland State, but my hope is to see whatever QB is on the field making adjustments at the LOS. Knowing the playbook, knowing when to check out of certain things and then knowing the play to check into in a HUNH offense is key. I think we lacked that last year and were forced to stick with plays that the defense was set up to defend. I think Storey would notice a safety dropping down, for example, but did not have the grasp of the playbook to know what to check down to.

The Morris offense seems more about getting playmakers in space and utilizing the open spaces the defense gives up pre snap.

For some awkward reason I am a little bit excited about this season. Maybe it is because I look at the offensive depth chart and see a few different names on the OL and a little bit more hope at QB. The RB's are proven and the talent(if it can stay healthy)at WR is more than capable.
Posted by Arksulli
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Storey may have also had issues with retaining the playbook as well


I always got the feeling that Storey knew the playbook, he just couldn't execute the playbook. He took a ton of punishment and I respect him for getting back up from some monster hits, but at heart he just wasn't an SEC caliber QB.

Not every highly rated recruit turns out to be a college star.

Dan Enos is a good judge of QB talent and he seemed pretty OK with leaving Storey on the bench when Austin Allen got injured.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:55 pm to
Dan Enos is a good play caller, but an evaluator of talent he is not. He recruited Cole Kelley and Daulton Hyatt. That should tell you all you need to know about his talent evaluating skills.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 3:28 pm to
Yeah I love Dan and his offense is my perfect offense that I’d like to see my favorite team run but he definitely has to take the blame on our QB selection. He was 100% the guy that signed off on Kelley and Hyatt and led that charge with them so he isn’t as perfect as some would make him out to be.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Caughtthat4ironflush
Texarkana, Texas
Member since Mar 2019
215 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 3:32 pm to
Enos was a great signal caller. Enos knew the QB's in and out and knew who could and couldn't perform. Watching Ty Storey from the year before in Spring practice, honestly, I could put almost any QB in there ahead of Storey and he'd perform better. Worst QB in Razorback history who started more than 3 games, bar none.
Posted by Barneyrb
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 6:25 pm to
My question is who can run for their life the best? With (what I fear) our O Line he's got to be fast.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 10:35 am to
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My question is who can run for their life the best? With (what I fear) our O Line he's got to be fast.




JSJ is small and elusive. He can scamper around fairly well. With his height we might have to roll him out of the pocket more often. KJ seems to be the best overall package but he's young.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 8/24/19 at 11:28 am to
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Worst QB in Razorback history who started more than 3 games, bar none.


Ryan Sorahan says hello.
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