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re: This is the best football team Arkansas has had since 2016
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:23 pm to Arksulli
Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:23 pm to Arksulli
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I most assuredly hope you are correct but I see, if things go right, 5 wins. Maybe 6 if we catch the very rare lucky break.
I hate to say it but I kind of agree with this. The schedule this year is so brutal. It is hard to jump in and identify six wins without us catching some good breaks. I think this team is good no doubt and forsure our best since 2016 (tallest midget etc).
However I disagree with this part:
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I fear we may have 3 or 4 wins after the all too common "how the frick" games where we lose because, while trying to kneel out the game, we fumble and the other team returns it 95 yards on the last play of the game.
I like to think that we experienced so many of these under Bert/Chad due to our losers mentality. We weren't supposed to win so we never did. We magically found ways to lose. Last year there was just an intangible feeling that we had turned a corner in this regard. By the end of the season we may not have the 7/8 wins that we all crave, however I really don't think think we will be looking back and saying 'how the frick' did we blow that game.
Or at least a kid can dream.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 12:24 pm
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 12:50 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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We will beat either Aggie, longhorn, LSU or, and yes I truly believe we could, bama.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:12 pm to ArHog
A&M lost their qb and most of their offensive line. Alabama lost a ton and even if the guys replacing them are all world there’s always going to be year 1 growing pains, Texas just really does not impress me and I expect us to win that game, and LSU has not shown me anything under Orgeron other than a flash in the pan year when he had a no.1 overall qb and genius young offensive mind along with 3 1st rd receivers and a 1st rd running back. This is the same guy that went 5-5 a year ago and has lost to Troy before. Auburn is going to be down down this year, and although both Mississippi schools will be better than last year I expect us to at least split with them. We have a veteran, big offensive line, a qb who fits what our OC wants to do really well, one of if not the best receiver in the country for him to throw too, lots of young talent at both receiver and running back, a great secondary, great linebackers, and a deep defensive line with size and speed. There is no reason to expect us to lost to anyone on our schedule other than Alabama, Aggie,UGA, and maybe ole miss. Thinking otherwise is just buying into the poor lil arkysaw bullshite that the media is going to always throw against us. Unless we get hit with the injury bug or kj ends up being complete dogshit we should be a very good football team this season. There’s a reason your starting to see national analyst projecting us to finish 4-5th in the west.
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:16 pm to DeshaHog
We played an all SEC schedule last year with 3 heartbreakingly close losses*, and still got 3 wins.
The only reason to think we don't win 6+ this year is if you think KJ really struggles. And that is certainly possible
The only reason to think we don't win 6+ this year is if you think KJ really struggles. And that is certainly possible
This post was edited on 8/13/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:52 pm to The Sultan of Swine
quote:yeah a lot rides on how he performs but if he’s solid we’ll be alright
The only reason to think we don't win 6+ this year is if you think KJ really struggles. And that is certainly possible
Posted on 8/13/21 at 1:58 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If he does well then it is more than 6 wins but if he struggles then 6 wins is the ceiling.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 3:48 pm to Arksulli
Last years team was capable of 6 wins in a normal year. I’m expecting a bowl game this year tbh
Posted on 8/13/21 at 6:29 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Four wins.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:48 pm to Stonehog
quote:if we are so bad we only win 4 games we won’t even do that. Texas is worse than any team in the sec if we lose to them we will lose out
Four wins.
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:54 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Texas is worse than any team in the sec
No they aren’t lol
Posted on 8/13/21 at 9:01 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Beer number 20 i see...
Texas is worse than any team in the sec if we lose to them we will lose out
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:22 pm to Razorback Reverend
I’m sorry any sec team that we will play. State and mizzou will both be better football teams than Texas this upcoming season. Please don’t buy into the media hype with Texas. They didn’t magically get good just because Sarkisian is coaching them now.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:38 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
This
isn't exactly the same as
Texas would wipe vandy to pieces, Tenner most likely as well and possibly Auburn... whom we play btw.
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Texas is worse than any team in the sec if we lose to them we will lose out
isn't exactly the same as
quote:That!
I’m sorry any sec team that we will play. State and mizzou will both be better football teams than Texas this upcoming season.
Texas would wipe vandy to pieces, Tenner most likely as well and possibly Auburn... whom we play btw.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:00 am to Razorback Reverend
quote:vandy they would wax, Kentucky would depend on what they get at qb, I’m not totally sold on huepel but I think there’s a chance he can turn Tennessee around actually, and now that I think about it your right Texas I think will be better than auburn so I was wrong, they’ll be the 2nd worst power 5 team we play this year. Auburn may surprise me but there’s a chance they completely crash and burn
Texas would wipe vandy to pieces, Tenner most likely as well and possibly Auburn... whom we play btw.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 10:32 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Unless something has changed we have no speed at LB and less depth.
QB is a question. A big one.
Our #2 WR transferred to a soon to be conference rival.
Our recruiting is still also-ran status in the SEC.
We might surprise people, but we have not moved the needle near enough in recruiting or transfers to contend in the SEC. All of these teams mentioned as having ‘lost a lot’ have a recent track record of reloading better than we load or reload.
Arkansas Football since Petrino has been a shitshow, and there’s no one to blame but the money people steering the program. These people have a track record of making repeated bad decisions… hiring Long, Bielema, Morris..etc. A culture of ineptitude is what HY and Pittman are up against as much or more than any conference foes.
… and here come two more programs into the conference whose GOBNs have a track record of clearly caring more about contending.
We’ll get a win here and there… we’ll get a recruit here and there… with the way we play the off the field game I don’t see us contending anytime soon.
QB is a question. A big one.
Our #2 WR transferred to a soon to be conference rival.
Our recruiting is still also-ran status in the SEC.
We might surprise people, but we have not moved the needle near enough in recruiting or transfers to contend in the SEC. All of these teams mentioned as having ‘lost a lot’ have a recent track record of reloading better than we load or reload.
Arkansas Football since Petrino has been a shitshow, and there’s no one to blame but the money people steering the program. These people have a track record of making repeated bad decisions… hiring Long, Bielema, Morris..etc. A culture of ineptitude is what HY and Pittman are up against as much or more than any conference foes.
… and here come two more programs into the conference whose GOBNs have a track record of clearly caring more about contending.
We’ll get a win here and there… we’ll get a recruit here and there… with the way we play the off the field game I don’t see us contending anytime soon.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 11:38 am to Beached Tusky
quote:I’m not denying any of this but our linebackers may not be super fast but those are veteran solid players, and our qb is not near as big a question mark as you say. We may lay a fricking egg this year, we may suck for the next 5 but if you look at what we’ve got coming back we are not a nad football team for the year 2021 that’s all I’m saying
We’ll get a win here and there… we’ll get a recruit here and there… with the way we play the off the field game I don’t see us contending anytime soon.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 12:03 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
If the Missouri game were scheduled for next weekend we would not be favored in that game.
Those veteran, solid linebackers you refer to are no doubt great guys, but would not start in the upper 50% of the SEC.
That's where we're at in football, and in the scope of our conference that's pretty fricking sad.
We've been written off until someone with the purse strings decides to do something relevant with all the money that's been flowing in for years... and it's not facilities. The shithole stadium LSU plays football in can suffice as Exhibit A.
It's no wonder we have such excellent fan support in baseball and more recently basketball. Arkansas fans have been long-starved to get behind a program that's shown a sustained commitment to compete, much less contend.
Arkansas power brokers have been crystal clear with their contentment in growing cash-flow while exerting minimal effort to improve a product... which in turn also benefits their business partners who have solidified their stances as the focus programs in the broader eco-system.
It really all boils down to this.
Those veteran, solid linebackers you refer to are no doubt great guys, but would not start in the upper 50% of the SEC.
That's where we're at in football, and in the scope of our conference that's pretty fricking sad.
We've been written off until someone with the purse strings decides to do something relevant with all the money that's been flowing in for years... and it's not facilities. The shithole stadium LSU plays football in can suffice as Exhibit A.
It's no wonder we have such excellent fan support in baseball and more recently basketball. Arkansas fans have been long-starved to get behind a program that's shown a sustained commitment to compete, much less contend.
Arkansas power brokers have been crystal clear with their contentment in growing cash-flow while exerting minimal effort to improve a product... which in turn also benefits their business partners who have solidified their stances as the focus programs in the broader eco-system.
It really all boils down to this.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:40 pm to Beached Tusky
quote:so you really think grant Morgan, who was pre season all sec linebacker, albeit 3rd string, is not god enough to start in the top half of the sec? Agree to disagree then
Those veteran, solid linebackers you refer to are no doubt great guys, but would not start in the upper 50% of the SEC.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:41 pm to Beached Tusky
Matrell Spaight didn't have speed but led the SEC in tackles his senior year. Pool and Morgan are smart players but the bigger question is will the loss of Jonathan Marshall impact them?
Yes the QB spot is in question but Jefferson has been here two years and is not a true freshman. Some SEC schools will break in new QBs and they could be true freshmen.
Woods was a good player but Arkansas needed more speed and these freshman WRs coming in these last two classes will be better.
Recruiting is subjective to assumptions and opinions. I'm more inclined to believe the likes of what Sam or Saban says than what a nerd on 24/7 or rivals that has never played the game. Arkansas needs better players but Arkansas needs to evaluate them better.
They do currently but they will have some lean years where they are just average. It is extremely tough to win 10 plus games for consecutive years but even Bama will have those in the future.
Arkansas was a shitshow before Petrino and have been these 30 years. Sam has a tough battle a head but if they leave him a lone then maybe Arkansas can finally makes some gains.
Texas has a culture of laziness as they only won three Big 12 titles in 20 years. I guess like the Arkansas GOBN, Texas cares more a bout appearance than results. Oklahoma is the opposite of both.
The goal now is getting to and winning bowl games.
Yes the QB spot is in question but Jefferson has been here two years and is not a true freshman. Some SEC schools will break in new QBs and they could be true freshmen.
Woods was a good player but Arkansas needed more speed and these freshman WRs coming in these last two classes will be better.
Recruiting is subjective to assumptions and opinions. I'm more inclined to believe the likes of what Sam or Saban says than what a nerd on 24/7 or rivals that has never played the game. Arkansas needs better players but Arkansas needs to evaluate them better.
They do currently but they will have some lean years where they are just average. It is extremely tough to win 10 plus games for consecutive years but even Bama will have those in the future.
Arkansas was a shitshow before Petrino and have been these 30 years. Sam has a tough battle a head but if they leave him a lone then maybe Arkansas can finally makes some gains.
Texas has a culture of laziness as they only won three Big 12 titles in 20 years. I guess like the Arkansas GOBN, Texas cares more a bout appearance than results. Oklahoma is the opposite of both.
The goal now is getting to and winning bowl games.
Posted on 8/14/21 at 3:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Morgan's high football intelligence will make him a starter on most SEC teams. Linebacker is more a bout smarts than speed as I have seen faster linebackers than Morgan couldn't get on the field here.
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