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Tennessee shows you need a creative offensive coach in modern CFB
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:24 am
Look at teams like Tenn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St. What do they all have in common?
Even Saban realized you need a high powered offense.
I've said it once and I'll keep banging the drum. We need a creative mind as Head Coach so you don't have to replace a coordinator every few years if they are great or suck.
Even Saban realized you need a high powered offense.
I've said it once and I'll keep banging the drum. We need a creative mind as Head Coach so you don't have to replace a coordinator every few years if they are great or suck.
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:44 am to boogiewoogie1978
I’d agree with that, but said coach also has to emphasize defense. Auburn with Cam is still the only National Champion in the last 25 years without a top 10 defense.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:45 am to boogiewoogie1978
Kiff lost what was widely viewed as a top Offensive coordinator last year, and this year, his offense at Ole Miss is better... And the OU offense (which Lebby went to) is a tire fire.
Thats obviously the formula, especially at Arkansas, because we've seen it work to perfection very recently. It's why I wanted Kiffin so badly as HC, but alas things did not work out.
Problem is, how many of those types of elite play callers that are also good head coaches and can run a full program are out there?
Thats obviously the formula, especially at Arkansas, because we've seen it work to perfection very recently. It's why I wanted Kiffin so badly as HC, but alas things did not work out.
Problem is, how many of those types of elite play callers that are also good head coaches and can run a full program are out there?
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:49 am to boogiewoogie1978
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We need a creative mind as Head Coach so you don't have to replace a coordinator every few years if they are great or suck.
"Chad Morris is an awesome hire. Look at how he revolutionized Clemson's offense? Our offense will always be good under him!"
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:54 am to Jack Ruby
Need to offer kiffin 12-15 million. I’m serious we’ve got the funds.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:59 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Drunk before noon
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:04 pm to ArHog
That is neither here nor there
Posted on 10/9/22 at 6:37 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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you need a creative offensive coach in modern CFB
Our OC is a little too creative at times for my taste.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:24 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Even Saban realized you need a high powered offense.
Saban asked at one point “is this what we want the game to become?”
He didn’t say that because he hated the spread. He said that because he knew he could go get Kiffin and run that offense with better people. And that is exactly what he has done.
He also asked the same about paying people when he called out Jimbo, because he knew he could get the donors to do the same.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:29 pm to troyt37
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I’d agree with that, but said coach also has to emphasize defense. Auburn with Cam is still the only National Champion in the last 25 years without a top 10 defense.
Also only 1 of 3 without a top 3 recruiting class. The other two being Clemson with Deshaun and Clemson with Trevor.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 8:44 pm to FayetteNAM
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Also only 1 of 3 without a top 3 recruiting class. The other two being Clemson with Deshaun and Clemson with Trevor.
Sure, but that is pretty much a pipe dream at Arkansas, and having a top 10 defense is not exclusive to those with a top 3 recruiting class, so it is achievable. So you are left with what is really the only realistic formula for true success at Arkansas. A competent offense that can both run and throw, and a top 10 defense. Every time we have approached this we’ve been pretty damn good. Two years with Petrino, and I think one with Bert.
ETA: Nope, wasn’t Bert. Must have been Hooten Dale.
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Posted on 10/10/22 at 12:19 am to troyt37
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ETA: Nope, wasn’t Bert. Must have been Hooten Dale.
Must have been the Gus year with McFadden? But I can’t remember throwing much. Especially before and after Mitch. Casey wasn’t a slinger.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:24 am to Riggle
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Chad Morris is an awesome hire. Look at how he revolutionized Clemson's offense? Our offense will always be good under him!"
Problem is we were behind the curve. I’d say we are a little now too. Defenses have adapted to the power spread/RPO stuff.
We need someone who is either more flexible if a play caller or on the leasing edge of the next trend, but that’s not easy to find
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:31 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Need to offer kiffin 12-15 million. I’m serious we’ve got the funds.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:33 am to troyt37
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only realistic formula for true success at Arkansas. A competent offense that can both run and throw, and a top 10 defense
Such good analysis. If our offense and defense are good we will win more games. Thanks for the insight....
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:41 am to The Sultan of Swine
I think our offense would be okay if we eliminated the double reverse hidden ball statue of liberty bullshite, had a quarterback who could make all the throws, and threw the ball on first or second down about half the time.
I'm not real crazy about the pistol type formation for our running backs. I think it means the defense gets a head start on the running back, instead of the running back getting the head start, but our running game isn't the problem, so.
I'm not real crazy about the pistol type formation for our running backs. I think it means the defense gets a head start on the running back, instead of the running back getting the head start, but our running game isn't the problem, so.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:49 am to oklahogjr
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Such good analysis. If our offense and defense are good we will win more games. Thanks for the insight....
You didn't have to read it, a-hole. The notion that was being discussed there, was that true success comes with a top 3 recruiting class. Which is not mutually exclusive to a top 10 defense. A competent offense and a top 10 defense is achievable at Arkansas, without a top 3 recruiting class, and is our only realistic formula for success. We will never have a top 3 signing class, and certainly not a series of them, unless the University throws caution to the wind and we pull a Hugh Freeze until the NCAA busts our arse in a year or two.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:53 am to FayetteNAM
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Saban asked at one point “is this what we want the game to become?”
He didn’t say that because he hated the spread. He said that because he knew he could go get Kiffin and run that offense with better people. And that is exactly what he has done.
He also asked the same about paying people when he called out Jimbo, because he knew he could get the donors to do the same.
Saban has already landed on the moon while others are flying their Cessna's to test out wind drag coefficient.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:34 am to troyt37
quote:it allows the back to actually get downhill similar to an under center handoff while still operating from the gun for teams that aren’t use to under center snaps. It also doesn’t allow the defense to predict which side the run is going to as well
I'm not real crazy about the pistol type formation
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:56 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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it allows the back to actually get downhill similar to an under center handoff while still operating from the gun for teams that aren’t use to under center snaps.
Maybe it is the way we do it, but I disagree. Very often, our running backs are essentially standing still while the QB decides to hand it off or take it himself. There is no comparison between that and a handoff from the I formation, the defense can no more predict the direction from the I formation, and play action is much more effective if done well. Member all the times Ryan Mallett fooled the camera operators on play action? I member.
ETA: I also think it gives the defense several keys to read. If the RB is on the QB's left, and the QB never brings his throwing shoulder back, or takes another step or two back, it's almost always going to be a run to the right. Reverse is the same. So if the QB pretty much keeps his shoulders square to the line, it's a run play, is he brings his throwing shoulder back, it's a pass.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 10:10 am
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