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re: So, we look good

Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:55 am to
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:55 am to
I thought singleton threw the ball very well. A pleasant surprise.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:00 pm to
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'll admit, I thought Enos would be exponentially better than he was. As bad as he was, he was still a vast improvement over Briles.












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Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:11 pm to
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As bad as he was, he was still a vast improvement over Briles.
wait so the guy that got fired midway through his first year and produced one of the worst offenses in Arkansas history was betted than the guy that produced back to back top 25 offenses, won us back to back bowl games? I mean I can understand not liking briles, he had plenty of faults, not liking the gimmicky bullshite, thinking there were too many procedure penalties and wanting him gone but worse than enos? Cmon man enos offense was terrible and only rivaled by chad Morris in its ineptitude.
Posted by smoked hog
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:47 pm to
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How about calling a time out before half to work on a two minute drill? Or letting the backup QBs throw the ball? We had purpose behind action, which draws a stark difference from not knowing what to do.


Probably the thing that excited me the most was the fact that we actually used the game, especially the second half as a practice and you could tell that some of the backups could step in a be useful day 1.

We are screwed by a couple of injuries.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 12:55 pm to
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wait so the guy that got fired midway through his first year and produced one of the worst offenses in Arkansas history was betted than the guy that produced back to back top 25 offenses, won us back to back bowl games? I mean I can understand not liking briles, he had plenty of faults, not liking the gimmicky bullshite, thinking there were too many procedure penalties and wanting him gone but worse than enos? Cmon man enos offense was terrible and only rivaled by chad Morris in its ineptitude.


In 3 offensive stats that really matter, Briles offense was worse than Enos in two out of three.

3rd down conversion: 2023 38.29%, 2022 45.88%
4th down conversion: 2023 62.5%, 2022 45%
Red Zone efficiency: 2023 91.89%, 2022 83.05%

All the yards and touchdowns against weak teams doesn't mean anything. It's like taking yesterdays game and declaring BP the greatest OC in the history of the game. (He may actually be, but I digress)

I completely agree that Enos was not the same guy we had the first time, and deserved to get the boot. But the proof on Briles in in the pudding. TCU was coming off a 12-1 season, had incredibly similar stats in 2023 as Arkansas did in 2022, and went 5-7. His offense is and was a team killer.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:11 pm to
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We are screwed by a couple of injuries.

Who got injured?
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:27 pm to
Kutas and Armstrong are still injured.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:04 pm to
Yeah, not listening to someone who pronounces "button", "buh-en". Dude may be brilliant in his analysis, but I'm not listening to anyone who talks that way. Get off my lawn.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 2:33 pm to
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3 offensive stats that really matter, Briles offense was worse than Enos in two out of three.
I can think of a bigger one. PPG. Briles was way better at that. Enos teams barely fricking scored last year. We lost to byu with enos when we hung 50 on them with briles. With basically the exact same team. TCU lost a shitload from the 12 win team and also got a ton of miraculous luck that season. Briles may not be gods gift to football but by most metrics he was better than enos. Namely we won more games and scored more. Which ya know, id say is more important than 3rd down %
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Namely we won more games and scored more. Which ya know, id say is more important than 3rd down %


I bet TCU wishes they could say that. Briles offense was good for production, typically when it wasn't crucial, and it zonked the defense in nearly every game. We can agree that Briles offense was better than Enos' the second time around. We'll have to agree to disagree about his first stint.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:18 pm to
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We'll have to agree to disagree about his first stint.
no we don’t. Enos offense was better than briles or at least equal too briles his first go around. But that’s not what we were talking about, at least I wasn’t. I’m talking about the most recent offense we had before Petrino that was enos second time which was a disaster
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Can't believe he left Arkansas as the all time leading passer. It shows historically how weak Arkansas has been in the passing game.
Simply a matter of games played. Mallett would have set untouchable records if he'd started a 3rd season. He was averaging over 3,500 yards per year.
Posted by Cornelius
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 3:57 pm to
Enos II, Return to Fayettenam ranks among the worst sequels of all time.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 4:36 pm to
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no we don’t. Enos offense was better than briles or at least equal too briles his first go around. But that’s not what we were talking about, at least I wasn’t. I’m talking about the most recent offense we had before Petrino that was enos second time which was a disaster


3-7
8-4
6-6


Briles didn’t exactly set it on fire here.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 5:38 pm to
Ahem... compare the talent indexes during those tenures as well, ok... carry on..
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 7:34 pm to
Sorry y'all I wasn't trying to hijack the thread, I just thought it was funny how fast the worm turned.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 7:58 pm to
Worse than Troll 2.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:17 pm to
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I thought Enos would be exponentially better than he was. As bad as he was, he was still a vast improvement over Briles.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/30/24 at 8:20 pm to
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