re: So many threads about new coaches

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So a coach just has to decide if they'd rather lose to Bama every year at Tennessee or Arkansas

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beilama isn't being fired because he can't beat bama. He's going to be fired because he can't beat mizzou and missippi state. Programs we are historically better than. And people should really stop acting like we can't win in the sec. We've been in this league over 20 years and my entire life and until bielema we have won 9 or 10 games every 3 or 4 years. When I first started watching the hogs when I was 5 or 6 we were winning cotton bowls with Matt jones fast forward a few years and were a reggie fish fumble away from playing in the national title. Fast forward again a few years and were a scoop and score away from a sugar bowl victory and them another cotton bowl win. Let's stop thinking we can't win because we have proven time and time again we can.

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He's going to be fired

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Nope.

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Having the attitude of not going after a coach because you are competing other schools is a losers mentality.

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Theoretically, sure. But what coach do you go after in the real world? Dabo? Urban Meyer? Saban? These aren't realistic candidates.

Gundy would be a massive improvement, but has won the B12 once in 12 years. How does that translate to the SEC? Hopefully better than the B10 does, right?

Name the realistic P5 candidates we should go after.

So, Gundy is the only established P5 coach we should go after. The rest are up and comers of varying degrees. I don't think we disagree here.

I would rather take a shot at one of them in the 3-4 million range, than give Gundy 5+ for what could easily be the same result.

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His buyout is $15 million right now. The administration didn't challenge the Dem-Gaz article because they're embarrassed at the size of the buyout. But make no mistake, it's $15 million until January 1, 2018.

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No, it's not.

"Based on an evaluation of the contract by legal counsel for the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Bielema would be owed a little less than $5.9 million in buyout payments if dismissed at the end of the season.

The buyout owed to Bielema is decreasing by about $159,000 per month based on language and figures included in his original employment agreement and an amended contract that became effective Feb. 6, 2015, after the Razorbacks finished a 7-6 season by defeating Texas 31-7 in the Texas Bowl.

The buyout has been reported widely as $15.4 million, but that number is used only as the basis to calculate the actual buyout figure. The amount used to calculate Bielema's buyout on Jan. 1 drops to $11.7 million.

Bielema's actual buyout is determined by a formula included within the language of his original deal, which was made effective Dec. 4, 2012, and signed the next August.

It uses the $15.4 million figure as a numerator and divides that by the total number of months (97) in the full term of his contract. That figure of $158,762.88, called the "monthly value of the total guaranty payment," would then be multiplied by the remaining number of months on the contract, which runs through Dec. 31, 2020.

Based on that equation, Arkansas would owe Bielema about $5.874 million to terminate his contract after the season concludes Nov. 24, plus a prorated amount for any partial months of employment.

That figure would be offset by the gross amount of any salary earned by Bielema through December 2020 -- including for consulting or administrative jobs in college football or the NFL -- or any work outside of coaching, such as a side business.

The buyout money owed to Bielema would be paid on a monthly basis as a guaranty of The Razorback Foundation, the fundraising arm of the UA athletics department, or a financially responsible third party arranged by the university, per the contract.

Bielema's salary this season is $4.2 million based on the amended contract from February 2015. He has athletic- and academic-based incentives that could total up to $1 million each year, although the maximum amount he could earn this year is likely $250,000, mostly for players' classroom achievements that are reflected in the NCAA's Academic Progress Rate and Graduation Success Rate.

Bielema would earn a minimum bonus of $50,000 if Arkansas makes a bowl game.

In addition to Bielema's buyout, each of Arkansas' nine full-time assistant coaches have buyouts, according to standard language located in each of those contracts. Assistants are promised up to six months' pay if they are unable to find employment after a head coach is fired, which would total up to $1,972,500 based on the most recent signed contracts."


You're making it very hard to take you seriously ITT with this argument. Not only was this info pointed out to the DemGaz by someone from the UofA AD, but the contract is public record and you can read it yourself. The DemGaz isn't publishing this if it isn't 100% rock solid or if the wording in the contract is vague enough to leave even a shred of doubt.

Do you seriously not think we would've heard otherwise by now if it wasn't true? The university doesn't have to argue it, the article created quite a stir and spawned dozens of other articles from reputable sources, you don't think anyone else dug into the contract as well?

You are right in a sense though, the buyout is more than the $5.8mm that's widely discussed because there's nearly $2 million on top of it for all the assistants' buyouts as well.

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the contract is public record and you can read it yourself.

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What if he had another contract that wasn't public record?

It was a rhetorical question...

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Then you both couldn't be more wrong. He has little to no input on playcalling, he leaves that to Enos and Rhoads.

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He meddles with the offense and Enos stated as much.
Enos was asked about going fast he's said that was up to Bert.

No it is not.

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So it's official stonehog is talking out of his arse

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You're saying it couldn't happen because it's illegal? You sweet summer child.