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re: So it’s not Bobby

Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24026 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 9:43 pm to
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Speaking of winning, Bobby is 0-3 and his offensive skill players have single-handedly cost Arkansas 4 games this season.


Do you really believe with how intense BP is that this would still be a problem if he were the HC all season? He has had to coddle these head spaces to keep them from hitting the portal immediately following pittman being ousted.

If he had the offseason, his own players with NIL etc... Yeah buddy, he has something to prove. Damned shame we will likely miss it because of idiocy in hiring a nobody who will go against LSU, Fla, etal...nahhh mane!

I will pass
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8930 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:17 pm to
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Do you really believe with how intense BP is that this would still be a problem if he were the HC all season? He has had to coddle these head spaces to keep them from hitting the portal immediately following pittman being ousted.


To be honest, if he doesn’t get a good to great GM. I am not sold on Bobby. He would have to make so many concessions. Like being stuck with different DCs, etc.. I doubt he would take the job if it was me offering.

But my number one question to Bobby is who is your DC, and would he actually agree to work with you?
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7655 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:41 pm to
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Do you really believe with how intense BP is that this would still be a problem if he were the HC all season?


I don’t really think intensity in practice has any correlation with losing the ball while fighting for extra yards in the heat of the moment, no.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8930 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:19 am to
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I don’t really think intensity in practice has any correlation with losing the ball while fighting for extra yards in the heat of the moment, no.


The actual act, no. But knowing the fight is done and they should just be protecting the ball from strips and punches yes. The 10,000 hours/reps comes in there. Oh this guy is way stronger than me I can’t just muscle out like I did in high school.
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3603 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:37 am to
I was firmly on the Hire BP train until it blew up in flames in the 4th qtr Saturday.

We have a culture problem that needs to be completely cleansed.
Not saying he couldn't cleanse it but I'm now thinking we may need to start on the other side of the ball and he's clearly not willing to do that and never has been.

I think you go get Franklin and if he can convince BP to stay as OC, great. If not, well thanks for the redemption tour and at least now we can feel ok about the guy.

Heck, I'm even warming up to the idea of Mullens. He's won everywhere and would bring consistency. I'd still prefer Sumrall or Golesh but I think we have to go with someone more proven this time.

Boy I'd throw a lot of money at Lea and make him say No though. Vandy is a tough place to win and look what he's been able to do.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19401 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:03 am to
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I think you go get Franklin an

He will not be hungry after banking that much money.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32430 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:31 am to
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He will not be hungry after banking that much money.


If you saw his Gameday interview, I am pretty sure he will have a Cal type chip on his shoulder going forward. I believe his comment during that interview was something like "We did not win a national championship at Penn State, we were close, but that goal has not changed. We are just going to win a National Championship somewhere else."
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13484 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:11 am to
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Speaking of winning, Bobby is 0-3 and his offensive skill players have single-handedly cost Arkansas 4 games this season.
Every loss this year has been a team loss. There are problems everywhere
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8930 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:22 am to
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We have a culture problem that needs to be completely cleansed.


Have had one since he left. I’d be cool with a front loaded contract that was easily able to get out of for him. Based on fixing the culture and wins. Heavily incentive based. No one is coming for him. Might as well offer it to him. Hell offer him an incentive based OC contract and bring in a defensive coach.

Make it to where he can make bonus based on TDs, Yards, Scoring efficiency, etc.. if you did it to where he could get $4-5m if all incentives are hit. That’s more than he would make as a head coach at most jobs outside the p4.
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3603 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:01 am to
Again... you are talking about offense... that's great and all but we are seeing right now that you can have an elite offense and if you ignore the other side of the ball it kills you.
We have to get someone that understands championship football is about building the TOTAL program.

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30950 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:50 am to
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Again... you are talking about offense... that's great and all but we are seeing right now that you can have an elite offense and if you ignore the other side of the ball it kills you.
We have to get someone that understands championship football is about building the TOTAL program.


That's where a GM comes in.

And as much as I hate to say it, I think Houston Nutt could be a really good AD. I think he could open a lot of pockets. And he played both football and basketball. And it would keep Malzahn or any of his minions away from the program.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 11:54 am
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8930 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Again... you are talking about offense..


Again. Yes. I mostly want him as an OC. But given the ability to hire a DC that doesn’t suck balls, I would take him as a head coach. That would be one of the main questions I asked Bobby. Hey everyone knows you, they know you suck to work with.. you getting this job is based on you getting a DC in the top 40 of defense. Can you do that?
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8930 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:04 pm to
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That's where a GM comes in.


What’s that? The thing I’ve said we needed since 2021, and we didn’t hire until last year? But we hired a basketball one?

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And as much as I hate to say it, I think Houston Nutt could be a really good AD. I think he could open a lot of pockets. And he played both football and basketball. And it would keep Malzahn or any of his minions away from the program.


Houston Nutt shouldn’t be in the program officially but he should be the money raiser face of the NIL, I also thought Sam could do that before his absolute abortion of the last two seasons.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3603 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
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And as much as I hate to say it, I think Houston Nutt could be a really good AD. I think he could open a lot of pockets. And he played both football and basketball. And it would keep Malzahn or any of his minions away from the program.


I agree.... We did well when we had the "Arkansas " part of the formula figured out. HDN would reenergize that.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30950 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:44 pm to
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he should be the money raiser face of the NIL,

I'd be fine with that. I still think Pittman could help. He caused no issues when he left. He may not be interested, but he's the happy fat guy people like.
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3603 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:56 pm to
So theoretically IF it was Bobby.... Todd Grantham is currently unemployed and is a by all accounts a solid DC. He and BP worked together in the past.
If they were to team up for a "last ride" maybe I could get back on board....
also.... Baker at LSU may be looking for work soon.....

Options..... Just saying...
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3603 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 12:56 pm to
and Baker could potentially come with some high profile portal guys also
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19401 posts
Posted on 10/27/25 at 3:01 pm to
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And as much as I hate to say it, I think Houston Nutt could be a really good AD.

I don't hate it. He's the best salesman we've ever had.
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
719 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:05 pm to
You guys half way clamoring for Hootie to be the AD are about as crazy as the ones clamoring for Bobby to be the permanent HC 2 weeks ago.

It's 2025. There are better options out there than rehashing coaches that had middling success here 1-2 decades ago. Win some fricking games and the pocket books will open. Teams do it with less than what we have every year.

Wanting houston nutt back within 200 miles of this program is asinine.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24026 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 9:21 pm to
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t's 2025. There are better options out there than rehashing coaches that had middling success here 1-2 decades ago.


Part of this is likely right... But the last part, you are crazy.

Middling success, #5 in the nations winning the cotton bowl, going to our first BCS game in like... ohhh, FOREVER.....

Middling? I would like to know whom you consider more successful as a HC in the past 205 years... Dayumm! Middling?
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