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re: So it’s not Bobby
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:07 am to gohogs141
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:07 am to gohogs141
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would you rather stick with BP knowing what you’re getting to an extent or go with a high-risk, high-reward option
Neither. Bob Chesney is high risk/unknown reward because he's doing well at JMU, but he's maintaining what Curt Cignetti built. I'd say high risk/high reward would be Jamey Chadwell. He built Coastal Carolina, went 13–1 at Liberty, and he's declined the past two years. Maybe Liberty isn't the place for him, or maybe he'd be our Mike Norvell. Sam Pittman was high risk/low reward. Chad Morris was high risk/low reward. We need to stop making these hires and just hire people who're winning somewhere - and then avoid ungodly buyouts and extensions for barely winning seasons, and cut them loose when it's appropriate to do so.
I'd seriously rather have Rhett Lashlee than Bobby Petrino. Yeah, he's 5–3 at SMU this year. But SMU isn't exactly an easy place to win at these days, they're a team with G5 resources that joined a P4 conference only last year. He went 11–3 the previous two years and 7–6 his first year. I know this year is a disappointment for them because he just went to the playoffs, but he's honestly killing it at SMU. He's having more success than Sonny Dykes did at SMU, and TCU hired Dykes and went to the National Championship. Lashlee is as low risk as we can reasonably expect, and a high reward.
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:18 am to Rzrbackguy
It's definitely both. Got to fix the coach to fix the program. Lord knows the AD is useless.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 10:22 am to Woopigsooie20
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Y’all know Kill isn’t even an on field coach right? Tim Beck is their OC
You don't say. Kill is their defacto GM, which is why Vandy is in position to make the CFP. Hence why I was saying hire him to be our GM.
We will ignore that he has decades of on field coaching experience and to be honest, if he did not have major health issues, he'd likely have a national title or two on his mantle piece.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:02 am to UltimateHog
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I like Sumrall but he likely heads to LSU if they fire BK it sounds like.
LSU needs 60 million at least to realistically fire that Yankee. Don’t think they have it.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 11:59 am to CFB_Fanatic
Just takes a booster or two. According to their board meetings are taking place already about BK's future and list of targets.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:37 pm to VagueMessage
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Lashlee is as low risk as we can reasonably expect, and a high reward.
What makes you so sure we get him? He's got a great set up where he is. Plenty of money. More than Arkansas. Their rich boosters have shown they are willing to pay up for wins. Much easier path to the playoffs. Don't have to even travel to recruit. Great area, awesome campus, expectations lower.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:49 pm to SmackoverHawg
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He's got a great set up where he is. Plenty of money. More than Arkansas. Their rich boosters have shown they are willing to pay up for wins.
Not really, no one really wants to play at Southern Methodist and their stadium holds 35K. Everyone has money now, that's why SMU has such little talent and terrible recruiting/portal classes even fresh off a CFP birth. Other things matter.
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 12:57 pm to UltimateHog
I don't even like football anymore. I don't care what we do as long as we keep funding basketball. They play more games, gives me a night or two during the week to watch ball and the season is longer.
Baseball is a distant second until Vitello comes back after DVH reluctantly retires.
Football is dead.
Baseball is a distant second until Vitello comes back after DVH reluctantly retires.
Football is dead.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:02 pm to SmackoverHawg
Basketball is completely hands off at this point as long as Cal and Tyson remain connected. Same with baseball really at least until DVH retires in 2-3 years, but I think it will be Wes Johnson coming home not Vitello.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:20 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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Fuente had a 10 win season at VaTech and went to the ACC Championship game.
That was his very first season. He followed that season up with 9-4, 6-7, 8-5, 5-6, & 5-5.
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Lasted like 6 years
Because VT didn’t have the money to fire him earlier.
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Norvell had an undefeated season (until all his players quit the bowl game in protest) where he won 13 games and the ACC Championship.
Norvell is in his sixth season in Tallahassee and is staring his FOURTH losing season squarely in the face.
Florida State, like LSU with Kelly, cannot afford their buyouts.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:25 pm to SmackoverHawg
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I don't even like football anymore.
Now I’ve heard some good things about Smackover’s team and QB. So maybe just stay funding that program.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:26 pm to Hawgeye
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Now I’ve heard some good things about Smackover’s team and QB. So maybe just stay funding that program.
Maybe I should specify college football.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 4:15 pm to Hawgeye
Let's not forget, also, Fuente's and Norvell's records post-Memphis of barely over .500 are both in the ACC. But some of you think either of them would come to the SEC, and at Arkansas, and suddenly have equal or better success?
I get it, some are dead set against Bobby and that's fine. But to be sitting here pushing for coaches that are freshly fired or on the verge of it for subpar performance in a much weaker conference is lunacy.
Down vote all you want but I do still believe Bobby is a good coach and can win here consistently with the right resources. You can say, "he can't even win with his hand-picked offense" all you want but that is a fallacy. Do you really think he had the option to truly go out and actually get the top players he would've liked to get? No, he had to get the best he could get with the money available AND from the players that were willing to board this sinking ship. I will grant you that he did handcuff himself with Green but picking a QB is about as big a crapshoot as picking a HC. Green has all the tangibles but obviously doesn't have it between the ears when it counts. Some things just can't be coached and that's a fact.
One thing is for certain, there's not a single person on here that will be making the final selection. We will all just have to live with whatever happens, good or bad. I do wonder though, if it is Bobby and he does start winning, will the pearl-clutchers come back on here and eat their crow? If it's him and he doesn't start winning, I'll gladly do so.
I get it, some are dead set against Bobby and that's fine. But to be sitting here pushing for coaches that are freshly fired or on the verge of it for subpar performance in a much weaker conference is lunacy.
Down vote all you want but I do still believe Bobby is a good coach and can win here consistently with the right resources. You can say, "he can't even win with his hand-picked offense" all you want but that is a fallacy. Do you really think he had the option to truly go out and actually get the top players he would've liked to get? No, he had to get the best he could get with the money available AND from the players that were willing to board this sinking ship. I will grant you that he did handcuff himself with Green but picking a QB is about as big a crapshoot as picking a HC. Green has all the tangibles but obviously doesn't have it between the ears when it counts. Some things just can't be coached and that's a fact.
One thing is for certain, there's not a single person on here that will be making the final selection. We will all just have to live with whatever happens, good or bad. I do wonder though, if it is Bobby and he does start winning, will the pearl-clutchers come back on here and eat their crow? If it's him and he doesn't start winning, I'll gladly do so.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 4:19 pm to UltimateHog
Good thing we didn’t fire Sam last year so we’d be the only open job in the SEC….
Posted on 10/26/25 at 4:30 pm to Hawgeye
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Florida State, like LSU with Kelly, cannot afford their buyouts.
Oh they definitely can, just takes one or two boosters the school doesn't pay the buyout. Kelly is gone.
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Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:25 pm to CFB_Fanatic
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Again, any coach you “look forward” on has maybe 1% chance of being successful, if you’re lucky. Remember Chad Morris? Yeah he was the next big thing. Most up and comer hires are gonna turn out just like that
Equating Morris and his losing record at SMU to Mike Norvell and Ryan Silverfield at Memphis is ridiculous.
Norvell and Silverfield were a combined 87-37 at Memphis. Morris was 14-22 at SMU.
To insinuate that Morris was somehow a celebrated hire in 2018 is laughable. He was not "the next big thing". Norvell would have done a fine job (at least better than the last 7 years) and Silverfield would do a fine job as well in this cycle.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:35 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
I do not see silverfield as a decent enough of a recruiter, etc for the sec.
And he is half the coach of BP...
JMHO of course. Rhett ... same...
And he is half the coach of BP...
JMHO of course. Rhett ... same...
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:38 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I do not see silverfield as a decent enough of a recruiter, etc for the sec
But Bobby Petrino is well-known for his recruiting prowess and bubbly personality...
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:39 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What makes you so sure we get him? He's got a great set up where he is. Plenty of money. More than Arkansas. Their rich boosters have shown they are willing to pay up for wins. Much easier path to the playoffs. Don't have to even travel to recruit. Great area, awesome campus, expectations lower
I'm not sure, I was just throwing out what I think is a good example. He has it made, but he's also from Springdale and played for Arkansas. And to be clear, I'm over the in-state ties being a factor, but that could sway him. Or not. I just want the AD to do their due diligence and make earnest attempts and hire someone who's a proven winner at some level.
Posted on 10/26/25 at 5:47 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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To insinuate that Morris was somehow a celebrated hire in 2018 is laughable. He was not "the next big thing". Norvell would have done a fine job (at least better than the last 7 years) and Silverfield would do a fine job as well in this cycle.
I think it's fair to say he was while he was orchestrating the offensive rise at Clemson. But then Clemson takes the next step and wins two natties after he leaves, and SMU exposes him as an also-ran.
So naturally we hire him to predictable results.
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