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Putting this roster into perspective

Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:07 pm
We all know this team is small and lacks depth at the 4 and 5 but I'm not quite sure we really understand the disadvantage we go into every game.

There are 4 Teams in the power conferences with a -5 rebound margin average or worse

Miami
Arkansas
Boston College
Nebraska

The records of the combined teams not including Arkansas: 29-37 (43.9%)

Arkansas: 16-6 (72.7%)
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 9:10 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:18 pm to
My man
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:39 pm to
How do those teams rank in forced turnovers, turnover margin, and steals?

There is more than one way to skin this cat, focussing on what the roster isn't built to do shouldn't take way from what it was built to do and excels at. That is the difference in being a bad team versus a good team. A great team will do everything well, college basketball today is filled with good teams, very rarely does a great team come along.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:43 pm to
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There is more than one way to skin this cat, focussing on what the roster isn't built to do shouldn't take way from what it was built to do and excels at.


Agreed and that is what Musselman has done for the most part. Our TO margin is really are only saving grace.

Having said that, some things are just too great to overcome at times.
This post was edited on 2/4/20 at 9:44 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:50 pm to
Arkansas rebounds at a 70% clip on the defensive end. They also lead/led the sec in steals per game.

Sure the offensive rebound margin isn't int their favor, but Muss isn't having the team crash the boards on the offensive end, when he has they been snowbirded like crazy. The current trend is to sacrifice offensive rebounding in an effort to get back and get the defense set which for the most part they have been consistently good at.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 9:56 pm to
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Sure the offensive rebound margin isn't int their favor,


I'm not really just talking about the offensive rebound margin though. We don't rebound the ball well enough on the defensive end as a whole. We in the bottom 80 or so teams in D1 at preventing offensive rebounds. It is a combination of the two that is a problem.

My point isn't that we can't find other ways to win. Obviously we have seen that we can do that because its happened this year. My point is just to show another statistics that greatly hinders us in almost every game we enter.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:35 pm to
The roster is what it is. They are scrappy and play up.

I dont get the fricking extended cold stretches though. Just a bucket or two in the last 5 minutes and we would have won. Shits heart breaking.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22700 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 10:58 pm to
They go cold for a solid 4-6 minutes late almost every game lately it seems.

It's like they get hot, grab a solid lead, then the action stops, either via a Timeout, lull in the action, torn jersey, review, etc. And then its over.

This is either due to fatigue or they're just playing so far above their head that they come back to reality for a few minutes then lose the game. This has happened since about the Kentucky game.

Whitt also has a game about twice a month where he just is totally infective and goes nearly scoreless. That can't happen.

Look, the roster is obviously deficient in major areas and we all know what they are : size, depth, etc., but we've been up in the second half or in the final minutes of basically every loss and then they blow it. This team is so likeable, but once Joe got injured and slowedz it was kind of the death knell on any top 25 ranking.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:35 pm to
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it was kind of the death knell on any top 25 ranking.
The fact we were even in the discussion at all is a testament to how above our heads we're actually playing, though. Remember, pundits thought only 3 teams in the SEC would be worse than us this year.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:40 pm to
I think we need a 3rd shooter before height but that's just me. We are basically built like a mid major team would be but we don't have the roster full of sharp shooting wings. If Joe were healthy and sills a true sniper from three like his percentage would have had you believe then we would be chalking UK Auburn and South Carolina up as wins this year
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57682 posts
Posted on 2/4/20 at 11:55 pm to
To be fair, Sills has been rounding into form nicely lately.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17714 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:14 am to
Excited to have him for another 2 years honestly. Could be a hell of a 4 year player when its all said and done.

Jones going off is going to hurt. Dude is 100% going pro.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18426 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 8:46 am to
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Jones going off is going to hurt. Dude is 100% going pro.


Maybe he projects low and sticks around for the college poon
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:48 pm to
I don't think he projects to be drafted by the nba at the moment. Overseas is definitely there though if he wants it easily cause he is ready.

Coming back and balling like this again next year could put him into the draft but you can't fault a guy for wanting to get paid.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:49 pm to
He has. I didn't mean it as a hateful knock on him.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:28 pm to
Arkansas in SEC play: 4-5

4 wins

The combined rebound margin: 127-141
Avg: 31.75-35.25 (-3.5)


5 losses

The combined rebound margin: 126-221
Avg: 25.2-44.2 (-19)


We are almost always going to get out rebounded, the problem is clearly when we let the margin be this large. Some of this we can limit and control but for the most part it is just a big obstacle we must overcome every game.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22709 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:33 pm to
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Some of this we can limit and control but for the most part it is just a big obstetrical we must overcome every game.


GET AN OBSTETRICION FOR THAT... FIXED!
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:36 pm to
I'm not sure how auto correct could change to a word I'm 99% sure I've never used

Might leave it just for the absurdity of it
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22709 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 6:49 pm to
I am terrible at spelling and grammar, just couldn't let that one go. TY Brah! Enjoy your posts and knowledge. WPS!
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 7:24 pm to
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We are almost always going to get out rebounded, the problem is clearly when we let the margin be this large. Some of this we can limit and control but for the most part it is just a big obstacle we must overcome every game.


Only once has Arkansas lost in SEC play when shooting over 33% from behind the arc, Auburn when they shot the best in SEC play today 40% (tied with the OM game).

Only once has Arkansas won when shooting below 33% from behind the arc, Vandy when they shot 25%.

Only once has the team won when shooting more than 30% of their shots being threes, and only once have they lost when shooting less than 30% of their shots being threes, MSU 24%.

SCAR held them to their worst % from two at 41%, Vandy the best at 48%.

So the team shoots well from two and has a better chance of winning when 3 2s are taken for every 3. In the anomalies where this percentage was achieved, the difference comes down to free throws explaining the losses (MSU/AU/SCAR)
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 7:27 pm
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