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Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:11 pm
Quality thread #5
Besides refgate
Barford with 38 minutes 4/15 and 0/6 behind the arc.
Bailey had 10 points 6 rebounds in 18 minutes
Thompson hasn't been the same the past two games
Beard needs about 20-25 minutes a game. He had 29 tonight.
We went the final 3:30 in the first half without a fg
41% from the free throw line
Had 6 more turnovers than state
Besides refgate
Barford with 38 minutes 4/15 and 0/6 behind the arc.
Bailey had 10 points 6 rebounds in 18 minutes
Thompson hasn't been the same the past two games
Beard needs about 20-25 minutes a game. He had 29 tonight.
We went the final 3:30 in the first half without a fg
41% from the free throw line
Had 6 more turnovers than state
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:13 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Barford with 38 minutes 4/15 and 0/6 behind the arc.
He was even worse defensively but no stat for that. Got beat off the dribble over and over and over.
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Bailey had 10 points 6 rebounds in 18 minutes
Too small down low, he was part of the reason we couldn't rebound to save our lives. Him and Gafford both sucked in that area, which in the end really cost us the game.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:27 pm to pioneerbasketball
It was a bad game on the road and against a whistle happy crew. Still came down to the last shot (terrible one). We probably lose that game by 15 last year. It sucks but no panic button in sight.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:38 pm to ShreveportHog94
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It sucks but no panic button in sight.
This.
Arkansas plays their best basketball in Feb/March and April.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:40 pm to ShreveportHog94
Free throws cost us the game, clearly. Even without the disparity in number of attempts we couldn't buy a free throw.
I don't understand how this team was so good at the charity stripe last season and so poor this year. Macon went 1-3! That's incredible. He hit like 90% last year.
If I were Mike I'd have these boys shooting 500 free throws a day until it got corrected.
I don't understand how this team was so good at the charity stripe last season and so poor this year. Macon went 1-3! That's incredible. He hit like 90% last year.
If I were Mike I'd have these boys shooting 500 free throws a day until it got corrected.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 11:52 pm to BoarEd
Hannahs/Macon/barford and Moses shot well.
Moses was shooting something like 82% at one point.
Hannahs and Macon was both 90%+ last year.
Moses was shooting something like 82% at one point.
Hannahs and Macon was both 90%+ last year.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:48 am to pioneerbasketball
I'm going to precede this by saying there aren't many bigger CMA fans than myself. If you're taking into account both coaching ability and fit, I don't think there's a coach in the country I'd take over him.
That said, I don't think he had a great coaching performance last night. In the 2nd half we had stretched the lead out to 8, and he took Gafford out. Right then we needed to be trying to put the game away. Thompson was a liability all night, while Gafford was our second best weapon offensively, and best defensive weapon.
Of course as soon as Gafford came out they cut back into the lead. I understand wanting to keep fresh legs out there, just thought it was really bad timing considering the flow of the game, and that Gafford had stayed out of serious foul trouble.
That said, I don't think he had a great coaching performance last night. In the 2nd half we had stretched the lead out to 8, and he took Gafford out. Right then we needed to be trying to put the game away. Thompson was a liability all night, while Gafford was our second best weapon offensively, and best defensive weapon.
Of course as soon as Gafford came out they cut back into the lead. I understand wanting to keep fresh legs out there, just thought it was really bad timing considering the flow of the game, and that Gafford had stayed out of serious foul trouble.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:52 am to The Sultan of Swine
Gafford is shooting 55% from the line.
Earlier in the year, he was at 70%.
Earlier in the year, he was at 70%.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:57 am to pioneerbasketball
probably just due to a low number of attempts early on.
He looks more like a 55% free throw shooter that 70%. Some of those misses are ugly. Hopefully it will be something he's told he needs another year to work on if he wants to be a first round pick.
He looks more like a 55% free throw shooter that 70%. Some of those misses are ugly. Hopefully it will be something he's told he needs another year to work on if he wants to be a first round pick.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:01 am to The Sultan of Swine
He is 4/12 the last two games
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:33 am to pioneerbasketball
Jones needs to get involved in the offense more.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:54 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Jones needs to get involved in the offense more.
I think he's got deer in the headlights syndrome. That Tennessee game seemed like an eye opener for him and he is still trying to catch up. Maybe if he settles down and focuses on defense the game will come to him?
I really thought FTs and turnovers were the difference. For as good of an offensive team as we are, missing out on easy points like FTs is a killer. We hit 66 percent of those and the ballgame is a little different. 5/12 They also only had 7 turnovers. I thought it was because we didn't really impose the style of play that we normally try to. But we were good offensively, so it didn't matter.
I will say, I thought Beard played better than he did against Tennessee. Was comfortable within the offense, and had better offensive rhythm when he tried to create.
I do think that Gafford needs some help down low. Thomas wasn't very good tonight, and Arlando Cook wasn't either. Bailey was a little small, and while he was a good energy player, we need to make sure we don't give up as many offensive rebounds as we did before, or turn the ball over like we did.
Sad we lost, but I think we'll do well. Even if we lose to Auburn, I won't be pushing the panic button just yet. Auburn impressed me last night.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:00 am to pioneerbasketball
Observation from the game is we have a couple of players that need to get their shite together. Namely CJ Jones, Thomas, and Thompson. We should not have lost this game regardless of the FT disparity.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:23 am to DiafGtfo
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Maybe if he settles down and focuses on defense the game will come to him?
Kid should be an elite defender. He is Athletic enough to absolutely shut people down. I'm not sure if it's effort or technique but something is missing.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:42 am to UltimateHog
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He was even worse defensively but no stat for that. Got beat off the dribble over and over and over.
Drewbie didn't believe me when I said he doesn't have elite athleticism.
He got exposed last night.
Again, not bashing him but their guards were blowing past him.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:45 am to boogiewoogie1978
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Kid should be an elite defender. He is Athletic enough to absolutely shut people down. I'm not sure if it's effort or technique but something is missing.
Agree, Jones could be REALLY REALLY good for us.
He's still just a sophomore and didn't play at all last year hardly. Going to take time but I think him on this team.
SEC play is always a huge jump for 75% of players.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:50 am to UltimateHog
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Too small down low, he was part of the reason we couldn't rebound to save our lives. Him and Gafford both sucked in that area, which in the end really cost us the game.
No it didn't. We tied them in rebounding.
Turnovers and FTs lost the game. Plus defense at the end giving up two huge threes.
We're not that great defensively. We bite on everything, been a consistent gripe with Mike since he's been here. Technique isn't very good at all.
Gafford getting owned by Ado down low was unacceptbale, he's got to man up.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 12:22 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Observations From The Game
You were at the game?
Posted on 1/3/18 at 1:41 pm to Pigfeet
I made the four hour drive up from Spanish Fort with my son home for college.
My only addition to this conversation is I confirmed in person that I will be glad Thomas and Thompson's eligibility will be gone after this season. They just don't gel with any rotation they play with. And I catch myself holding my breath when they're near the ball.
I also confirmed my preconceived notions of Starkville. Not good.
I know it was January 2, but it was an early SEC game and it felt like a high school game. The atmosphere was nonexistent. I found 2nd row, half court seats on Stub Hub for $75 per two days before the game. The 'coliseum' couldn't have been more than 1/3 full. Odd, but about 12 of us Hog fans all ended up together for a nice cheering section.
Oh. Macon's travel was a legitimate move.
My only addition to this conversation is I confirmed in person that I will be glad Thomas and Thompson's eligibility will be gone after this season. They just don't gel with any rotation they play with. And I catch myself holding my breath when they're near the ball.
I also confirmed my preconceived notions of Starkville. Not good.
I know it was January 2, but it was an early SEC game and it felt like a high school game. The atmosphere was nonexistent. I found 2nd row, half court seats on Stub Hub for $75 per two days before the game. The 'coliseum' couldn't have been more than 1/3 full. Odd, but about 12 of us Hog fans all ended up together for a nice cheering section.
Oh. Macon's travel was a legitimate move.
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