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Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8287 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 12:48 pm to
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I believe KJ is just not a great QB, he is a freak athlete that will end up playing Tight End in the NFL.



He's a good, flashes of really good, college QB but he has about the same chance making it as QB in the NFL as I do
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Finally listened to the press conference. He seems really mad he isn’t getting the love fest he has gotten the past 3 years.


OK, so you don't like pittman... Got it!

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Oh it’s gonna be ugly. He isn’t giving up an easy 6+ a year.. there will be golden handcuffs and things. Divided fan base because he is one of us…

Then different groups will try to bring back an Arkansas son. Whether it be BLj or Gus…


Uhhh, Pittman wasn't a Arkansas son to begin with. Sure, he coached under Bert... But took the Georgia job to get outta here and away from Bert. I believe you are playing in your mind what you want .... perhaps... to happen? Very dramatic with all of this.

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he is a Nutt style guy and will divide the fan base is what I’m saying. Then the Springdale Crew will try to bring back Gus for the 8th time, he will get a big raise wherever he is. Then we will go with BLj because Yuracheck will interview a lot of people but no one who loves them Hogs like Barry. Willing to take a pay cut and everything.


Dude, did you know Nutt personally? The fam and I were around him quite a bit. Sam is really NOTHING like nutt overall. Nutt was a narcissist, arrogant, wind bag who loved to hear himself talk. He would seek revenge on every level possible and hired his cronies rather than those who were more capable.

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So KJ won't win the Heisman

According to half our fan base, he should.


So, you are saying 50% of our fan base are that dumb? Dude...

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If he continues with the aww shucks, I’m just a good ol boy that enjoys a cole beer…. People will want him around forever. He could go 2-10 for 3 years and everyone would say well he didn’t get his players in. Or can you believe how terrible his assistants are at recruiting?


If you believe all of this, seek help. 2-10 for 3 years... ! Dude again!

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I’m gonna tag team a news anchor with my brother.


Go on....

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I do. Because half of people are dumb.

They would cut their nose off to spite their face. So yes, there will be guys saying he needs more time, QB X left and they just haven’t had enough Arkansas talent to replace him.


Whelp.... Dude to the 3rd degree!

Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:17 pm to
Pittman was pissed because he has been a Oline coach for so long. He knows the business, especially that position. So he was incongruent on understanding all of the questions. I get it, it hasn't gone as well as expected for him, and definitely for the fans.

Biddy went too far with the last comment about what others are doing. It was judgmental and arrogant. Sam was self deprecating, aware, and tried to explain. He isn't a great PR/Communicator in pressers for sure. Not as polished as NUTT.

He admitted to using these last two games as practice basically. Looking around at the SEC, I like where we are in comparison to most. We may catch fire, we may crash and burn. I am admittedly thinking the first over the latter.

But I guess I am the DUMB one... Carry on!
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5382 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:22 pm to
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He's a good, flashes of really good, college QB but he has about the same chance making it as QB in the NFL as I do


Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:27 pm to
Hyperbole is being used a lot in this thread, evidently...

Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Pittman was pissed because he has been a Oline coach for so long. He knows the business, especially that position. So he was incongruent on understanding all of the questions. I get it, it hasn't gone as well as expected for him, and definitely for the fans.


Example 1 of the aww shucks Sam got him… every moves a good move. He has had 3+ years to fix the o line by recruiting. There is no excuse for not getting push on a Kent State that lost half their team to the transfer portal after their coach left. Sam can’t make a bad move to rev… he just needs more time.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37341 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Sam can’t make a bad move to rev… he just needs more time.


While I agree that Rev tows the U of A line.

Sam Pittman wasn't a 10 win coach consistently.

It's not that hard.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8287 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:55 pm to
Bookmark and come back to me in a couple years
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 1:58 pm to
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While I agree that Rev tows the U of A line.


I don’t dislike Rev. I think we have two different philosophies. I want coaches to constantly be scoring until the other team is down so bad they can’t win. All the way until the burn the clock in the final 4-5 minutes

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Sam Pittman wasn't a 10 win coach consistently.


That’s what I am saying, he wasn’t ever supposed to be the championship coach, but he will win just enough that half our fan base will love him forever and we won’t fire him until way past we should.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5382 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:02 pm to
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Bookmark and come back to me in a couple years


Sorry bro, I've got grass to touch. However, feel free to bump in a couple years.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37341 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:19 pm to
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That’s what I am saying, he wasn’t ever supposed to be the championship coach, but he will win just enough that half our fan base will love him forever and we won’t fire him until way past we should.



Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Example 1 of the aww shucks Sam got him… every moves a good move. He has had 3+ years to fix the o line by recruiting. There is no excuse for not getting push on a Kent State that lost half their team to the transfer portal after their coach left. Sam can’t make a bad move to rev… he just needs more time.



And yet, I am not who you think I am... yes, I tow the line a bit. But I can promise you that the BOT/Leadership at the University have heard my voice plenty. I fought to get Nutt out, if he didn't make necessary changes. He was too arrogant to make. I fought to get Petrino hired, over the voices of several others who were against him. Not publicly, but in private circles.

Here is what Sam is... to this point. He has revitalized our program. Made it a medium program. He is not a NC winning coach, but we knew who he was when hired. Again, nobody with a brain wanted this job other than a flyer. Fans had to be brought back to the table by a personality first, then by some wins. He has done that.

Yes, Our Oline should be much better overall. Recruiting is suspect there, as I replied to Drew in our game thread on Sat. But... Where we differ mostly is this. He deserves to be able to make us more stable, to correct our mistakes from the past. Once there... We can do better.

Look at our history overall. We went from suckage to decent, to much better to... AWW HELL AGAIN???

I just don't believe he will pull what Nutt did, or will leave us a dumpster fire. I think he is a better human being than Nutt/Malzahn types. But then again, I look for the good in people.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37341 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:27 pm to
Are you on the BLJ train Rev?
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:32 pm to




Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8082 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 2:46 pm to
Im just not happy that 3-4 years of having an O line coach as the head hog, we can’t get push on a Kent State that was terrible last year, has a new coach after losing half their team.

Am I thinking the sky is falling? No. I believe we will win 7-8 games. Which is proudly in the Houston Nutt standards.

I am more perturbed by the fact every media member has gobbled his knob, and the first time they don’t he acts like they asked him when he is gonna quit beating his wife. No, you were hired to do a job, everyone who backed you promised that we would always have a line to be proud of, and that has yet to materialize.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
37341 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 3:13 pm to
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I'm just not happy that 3-4 years of having an O line coach as the head hog, we can’t get push on a Kent State that was terrible last year, has a new coach after losing half their team.


The media should continue to press this in the PC's
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 3:40 pm to
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The media should continue to press this in the PC's


Press the recruiting aspect more...

How do we have so many 4**** WR's, TE's, Defensive players, and so few highly rated OL players?

I know ratings isn't everything... But by the play on the field along with the ratings... It is definitely SOMETHING! lol
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 4:15 pm to
I read that 75% of four and five stars are skill players.

You don't need to have highly rated offensive lineman to have good rushing offenses.

Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25421 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:41 pm to
I think we have some talent in our top 8-9 lineman. Experience is lacking
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 6:46 pm to
Yes inexperience is the problem and offensive linemen are the hardest positions of development.
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