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re: *No Update, Too Much crap to deal with, Ohh Ex OC Briles is still awesome, Good Feral?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:14 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:14 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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the offense we run is very similar to ole miss, Oklahoma, and many other spread offenses across the sec and big 12
Yes, I’m fully aware that we are nearing saturation level for the spread in college football. Which means defenses work weekly on schemes to defeat it. I’d be fine with it if we did it at a high level, but we don’t.
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Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:29 pm to troyt37
quote:I didn’t say that because it’s the spread. Hell just about everyone runs the spread. I mean scheme and terminology wise it’s identical almost to ole miss, OU and many big 12 offenses. Also some concepts and schemes that Mississippi state and usc run. There’s different versions of the spread
I’m fully aware that we are nearing saturation level for the spread in college football
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:38 pm to dchog
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Start a thread on the rant.
K.J to Auburn. The next Cam Newton.
Why make KJ’s life worse? Every dipshit news person will pick up the thread and make a questioning statement. Then all the dumb fans will say well frick him.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:41 pm to dchog
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The portal is ruining the sport.
It's the mixture of the portal AND NIL.
College football has nothing to do with college anymore.
It's a free agency marketplace now.
The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer.
It really has taken a lot of enjoyment out of it for me.
The Razorbacks have very little to do with Arkansas, they just wear Arkansas jerseys.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:36 am to WonderWartHawg
I think the portal is evening the sport.
It had kind of become the Bear method, get 1000 five stars and keep them buried in the bench. Look at Drew Sanders.
I think people see him and are more willing to come down to an Arkansas from Bama.
Who have we lost that really hurt us? Brooks? Foucha? They didn’t stand out at LSU from what I have seen. Which means most kids won’t be doing that, unless they just want to go home.
Malik? I don’t see him being a great P5 qb. I do believe if he was smart he would switch to CB/Safety or an actual receiver and not just a decoy threat to double pass.
It had kind of become the Bear method, get 1000 five stars and keep them buried in the bench. Look at Drew Sanders.
I think people see him and are more willing to come down to an Arkansas from Bama.
Who have we lost that really hurt us? Brooks? Foucha? They didn’t stand out at LSU from what I have seen. Which means most kids won’t be doing that, unless they just want to go home.
Malik? I don’t see him being a great P5 qb. I do believe if he was smart he would switch to CB/Safety or an actual receiver and not just a decoy threat to double pass.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:00 am to WonderWartHawg
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It's the mixture of the portal AND NIL.
Agreed. NIL in and of itself doesn't bother me. However, having the transfer portal with its current rules in the mix creates a situation where it's essentially wide open free agency, and that's the primary issue I have.
I'd like to see something added to the rules that you're not eligible to transfer without sitting out a year (barring a coaching change) until your second or third full year at your original school, or something along those lines. It would create a similar approach to the pros where you have an initial rookie contract, and then you're free to go where ever you'd like.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:30 am to HogX
I don't have a problem with NIL. They should have been paid decades ago.
This portal is worse than any free agency. At least they were under contracts and if you didn't follow the contract then you got hit hard in the pocket. But the portal you can transfer without reason and no penalty.
This portal is worse than any free agency. At least they were under contracts and if you didn't follow the contract then you got hit hard in the pocket. But the portal you can transfer without reason and no penalty.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:49 am to dchog
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I don't have a problem with NIL. They should have been paid decades ago.
Once those multi-billion dollar national TV deals started getting signed, the idea of amateurism was a joke. If the NCAA had just given in and allowed a pay structure with income caps and more constrained rules years ago, I don't think we'd be here today. Instead, they held out, let the courts get involved, so it morphed into the Wild West and is going to be very difficult to rein in. Which may very well be what they intended to happen the entire time out of spite.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:24 am to troyt37
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the spread
"the spread" has existed for well over 35 years
Sid Gillman and Don Coryell would argue much longer than that
us slightly older guys, as little kids, remember the SWC history of F.A. Dry at TCU and Ray Alborn at Rice as being "something different" if you read the Dave Campbell's preseason magazines of Arkansas Football and Texas Football. Hmm, the "one back" and they throw a bunch. Hmm...
that makes "the spread" in our Texas to Arkansas stratosphere about 45 years old
Here's Steve Ensminger's #2 offense in America, spread offense, at Louisiana Tech almost beating Auburn in 1990 if Auburn hadn't cheated and ran an illegal substitution late in the game while the SEC refs pretended not to see it.
Joe Brady was one year old at this point, but some guys still pretend Joe Brady "taught Steve Ensminger" stuff
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:58 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I understand all of that. I'm just saying that college football has become so copycat/me too, that by it's very nature it will be cyclical. At some point, some coach will come out running a new version of some other old offense and have success, and a new cycle will start. In 10 years, everyone will look back at the spread like we do the option today.
I happen to like the pro style, quarterback under center, fullback and halfback offense. I think it improves the running game, and requires the defense to respect the run game, which makes the QB's life much easier in the passing game. But I am fine with any offense that is consistent, effective, and productive.
I happen to like the pro style, quarterback under center, fullback and halfback offense. I think it improves the running game, and requires the defense to respect the run game, which makes the QB's life much easier in the passing game. But I am fine with any offense that is consistent, effective, and productive.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:55 pm to troyt37
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I happen to like the pro style, quarterback under center, fullback and halfback offense
I mean there's a reason hardly anyone runs those offenses anymore. It's basically objectively worse than modern spread offenses at this point.
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requires the defense to respect the run game
Many spread offenses are run first (I can think of one you may know about). There's nothing about the spread that means the defense has to respect the run less
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:06 pm to Porcine Human
Odom apparently interviewed for the Tulsa job this week.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:52 pm to Hogssmellgood
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Odom apparently interviewed for the Tulsa job this week.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:05 pm to Hogssmellgood
Good. He needs to take any head coaching job or risk getting fired.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:12 pm to dchog
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Good. He needs to take any head coaching job or risk getting fired.
I think he is doing that so he isn’t fired right now by Pittman.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:13 pm to FayetteNAM
KJ returning next season, which means Briles is likely staying too IMO.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:47 pm to troyt37
quote:people have been saying this for 20 years. The spread isn’t going away. It’s not a gimmick, you never saw the option take over the nfl the way the spread has.
everyone will look back at the spread like we do the option today
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:07 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Facebook sources are saying Odom will accept the Tulsa job and Ed O will replace him
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:08 pm to hawgfaninc
Ah yes, noted schematic mastermind Ed Orgeron
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:10 pm to hawgfaninc
I I think O is being paid by LSU?
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