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Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 12:03 pm to
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I don't know why several coaches don't foul in that situation.


Maybe you should just leave it at that then?

Arkansas held Texas to 19% from the field for the entire second half. The Hogs were EXCELLENT on defense last night.

It's six of one, half a dozen of another. Do you turn the final seconds of the game into a free throw shooting contest? Maybe, but your own team isn't hitting even 60% of them. Forcing Texas to take a deep three for a chance to tie was the right call, IMO.

Credit to that Texas player. That was a big time shot.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 1:23 pm to
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But it makes the arm chair racists feel better to hate on Mike because they can't say the N word at work anymore.




Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2532 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:19 pm to
Its just bad. No way you lose up 3 with 9 seconds left and the other team rebounding a free throw. No way.

Just an aggressive move for the ball when they cross halfcourt and either steal the ball or foul.

No WAY you let them shoot a 3 point shot.

Not even touching all the other fundamental issues including the inability to inbound against a press.

SO much talent...with an actual coaching staff we'd be contending in the SEC this year. As it is....mid tier.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7651 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:26 pm to
It’s the little things that frustrate me like dribbling the ball off of your foot out of bounds (twice), missing a layup, missing a dunk, etc. Those add up, wouldn’t have been close at the end if not for them.

Between that and free throws we shot ourself in the foot a lot.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:26 pm to
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The difference in the game was obviously free throw shooting to anyone with a functioning brain and eyeballs. But it makes the arm chair racists feel better to hate on Mike because they can't say the N word at work anymore.


Lots of those in NWA. Thats why they are afraid to come to LR
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64613 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:51 pm to
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Well when the game was lost on free throw shooting and people rush to blame the coach, you have to wonder.
Please tell me how the entire team being incapable of hitting more than 1 shot in 2 from the line (all of which recruited by Mike) isn't Mike's fault but the shitty offense Morris didn't recruit is his fault? Hypocrites.

Nevermind the fact that we were up 3 with Texas in the bonus with less than 10 seconds left and we didn't put them on the line. Great coaching.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:55 pm to
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Arkansas held Texas to 19% from the field for the entire second half.
Arkansas didn't hold them from doing anything. We switched to a zone and it helped with Texas' in and out game, but we gave up open looks all night long. Texas clanged open 3s and missed layups under the basket all night. We should have won that game. If Texas hit even a portion of the shots we left open last night, they win by 10 at least.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 5:56 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:57 pm to
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Nevermind the fact that we were up 3 with Texas in the bonus with less than 10 seconds left and we didn't put them on the line. Great coaching.




Wasn't there a situation just like this against Vandy 2 year ago and he chose not to foul as well? I believe we won but he was criticized by the announcers and analysts after the game.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 5:58 pm to
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Wasn't there a situation just like this against Vandy 2 year ago and he chose not to foul as well? I believe we won but he was criticized by the announcers and analysts after the game.
Yep. It makes zero sense not to foul there. Why would you give the other team a chance to tie when it's that easy to guarantee that they don't without having to at least fight for another rebound?
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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17810 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:00 pm to
What if we hit a portion of our open shots?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:02 pm to
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What if we hit a portion of our open shots?
We shot 10% better than Texas from the floor and lost. We hit more shots than they did and still lost. Do the math.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:04 pm to
In general most coaches are stubborn. For a long time many coaches wouldn't take that strategy even though the "math" said it was the smart choice. Now it seems like most coaches foul there and recognize it is the smart play most of the time, especially when the team has to travel the full length of the court and you know you aren't going to foul them while shooting.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:04 pm to
So we would have still lost?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64613 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:07 pm to
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So we would have still lost?
Texas was +6 from beyond the arc an +8 from the line. That's while shooting 31% as a team from the floor. We lost to a team that shot 31%. There's zero excuse. Go play devil's advocate elsewhere. I'm not playing your dumbass games this season.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 6:08 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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17810 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:14 pm to
So the coach had us in position to win, but the players couldn't execute... Gotcha
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Wasn't there a situation just like this against Vandy 2 year ago and he chose not to foul as well?


I remember Vandy fouling Macon and then he made all three free throws and we won the game.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64613 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:15 pm to
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So the coach had us in position to win, but the players couldn't execute... Gotcha
Whatever you want to tell yourself.

Go watch the timeout with under a minute that MIKE takes. Texas huddles around their coach and discusses what they're going to do to end the game. Every Arkansas player on the floor walks straight to the bench and starts talking amongst themselves while Mike stands off to the side whispering to other coaches for the entire duration of the timeout. Lo and behold, Texas knows what to do at the end of the game better than we do. Shocker.
This post was edited on 11/10/18 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:16 pm to
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I remember Vandy fouling Macon and then he made all three free throws and we won the game.
You do realize if you foul someone in the bonus you don't get 3 free throws right? The trick there is not fouling while they're shooting a 3, genius.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 11/10/18 at 6:20 pm to
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I remember Vandy fouling Macon and then he made all three free throws and we won the game.


I know about that game but that isn't what I'm talking about. I'll try to find it later, might have not been Vandy.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/10/18 at 7:02 pm to
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You do realize if you foul someone in the bonus you don't get 3 free throws right? The trick there is not fouling while they're shooting a 3, genius.



Yeah no shite, so you wanted them to foul with time on the clock, meaning there are several different scenarios that could have played out. Forcing them to take a deep three was the right call, it just didn't work out. Stop trying to act like you're smarter than a coach with decades of experience.
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