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re: member when Arkansas win ceiling wasn't 8 games

Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:02 pm to
Well just about everyone from their 2011 defense and several from their offense played in or still play in the NFL. They also beat two teams OOC who played in BCS bowls so the schedule argument doesn't really hold up. This year they lost OOC to a potential NY6 P5 team.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:06 pm to
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2011 LSU had a better offense than 2016 LSU, yes. But 2016 LSU has a better defense than 2011 LSU by all measures.

They beat Alabama in 2011 (a worse team than 2016 Alabama)


Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:06 pm to
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All I get out of this is that we won. Meanwhile, the fat man actually lost to Toledo and Rutgers, not almost lost...LOST.




But that's the point. Petrino could only beat the cupcakes consistently. He would get beat in the games that mattered, back then that was Alabama and LSU (He went 2-6 against them). So Bert's 2-6 record against those two teams is identical. But we've equally if not more competitive in those games the past 3 years.
Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:07 pm to
If you think it's so laughable then name ways that 2011 Alabama is better than 2016 Alabama.

Name ways that 2011 LSU defense is better than 2016 LSU defense.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:09 pm to
You don't get to play "games that matter" if you don't beat the cupcakes. We've yet to be in contention for anything significant in November under fatty.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:14 pm to
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You don't get to play "games that matter" if you don't beat the cupcakes. We've yet to be in contention for anything significant in November under fatty.




We never were under Petrino either.

*IF* he beats LSU in 2011, doesn't matter cause Bama beat the brakes off his team.

*IF* he beats Bama in 2010, doesn't matter, Auburn was still scoring and didn't get beat by anyone else.

So if the measure is to be in contention of anything significant in November, you'd have to be back to Nutt to find it.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:20 pm to
2010- we were playing for a BCS bowl the last week of the season. We won. It was the only BCS bowl we ever played in.

2011- we were #3 going into the last game and a lot was on the line. We got blasted by an all time great team.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 1:45 pm to
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2010- we were playing for a BCS bowl the last week of the season. We won. It was the only BCS bowl we ever played in.


The BCS was a brief time in CFB history.

The games that mattered that year were beating a down 9-3 Bama team, we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, we repeated this feat against OSU in the bowl game.

Win either of those two winnable games and maybe Petrino's recruiting isn't a dumpster fire going forward.

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2011- we were #3 going into the last game and a lot was on the line. We got blasted by an all time great team.


There was a lot on the line, for Alabama, We win and they go to the SEC-CG and a rematch likely does not occur for the MNCG.

The goal should be to win the west, something neither Petrino or Bert has come close to doing.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16036 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:08 pm to
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But that's the point. Petrino could only beat the cupcakes consistently. He would get beat in the games that mattered, back then that was Alabama and LSU (He went 2-6 against them). So Bert's 2-6 record against those two teams is identical. But we've equally if not more competitive in those games the past 3 years
idgaf if the games were "closer" lately. You said it yourself that beilama and petrino have the same record against lsu and bama the difference is petrino did what he supposed to against the cupcakes. Something fatass can't seem to do
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:11 pm to
I'm certain that the Alabama defense in 2011 was statistically speaking one of the best ever if not the best ever in modern history. I remember tons of their fans saying they liked it more than the beloved 92 team. A quick glance shows they only gave up 21 or more once. That is very impressive.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16036 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:15 pm to
Damn why are you defending beilama vs petrino in a purely football argument? Anyone in there right mind knows petrino is the better coach the record proves it. What hrs doing now at Louisville proves it. If we took this convoy to the rant you'd be laughed at for a week.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:17 pm to
Indeed. If not for their "shite through a tin horn" game against Georgia Southern, we scored the most points against them that season. 14. But this year's Alabama defense is totally better.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2480 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:20 pm to
Does beating a top ten 2011 South Carolina team not count as a big game?

Or what about Kansas State in 2011 to finish in the top five?
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:22 pm to
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Damn why are you defending beilama vs petrino in a purely football argument? Anyone in there right mind knows petrino is the better coach the record proves it. What hrs doing now at Louisville proves it. If we took this convoy to the rant you'd be laughed at for a week.


Where am I defending Bert?

Again this year, Petrino has lost the game that mattered.

His team had one tough game on the schedule in their way of a conference championship and he lost per usual.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:22 pm to
They're only "big games" if we lose them.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Does beating a top ten 2011 South Carolina team not count as a big game?

Or what about Kansas State in 2011 to finish in the top five?



You are confusing big games with games that matter.

Winning championships matter.

Finishing top whatever means dick unless you finish #1 in the poll.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16036 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:24 pm to
Lol exactly. Swear to god the Homers on this board are some of the most delusional people I've ever heard of. They'll blindly support whoever the head coach is without question no matter results believing them to be the best. Then ghe day he's fired act like he's the worst coach on earth. Same thing will happen with beilama doesn't matter if he's actually good or bad. Just like a bunch of damn liberals
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16036 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:29 pm to
LOL oh yeah the guy who's got a top team in the country and a Heisman qb is so shite and doesn't know how to coach and always loses the big game . I wish beilama would "just" lose the big game.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
9288 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:37 pm to
Yea and he lost the "only game that mattered." It's not like his team is a playoff contender that is one loss from elimination so every game matters.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42349 posts
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:43 pm to
So your are telling me he has the best player in CFB and can't win his conference?

That is sounds Houston Nuttish.
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