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re: Kendall Briles

Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:44 am to
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:44 am to
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I don't remember him calling any plays that have never worked over and over and over.


The only play I can think of is the KJ run up the middle, but it is almost always from a collapsing pocket when receivers are covered. He isn’t delay drawing the QB and making him take a 5 step drop then run that back up.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:46 am to
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You want to see something crazy. Watch the difference in his touch passes from the first couple of games.

Amazing. I used to hate those intermediate routes and swings out to kern. But he isn’t throwing them high and hard anymore.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:49 am to
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I think we all just see KJ and we think "Bobby Petrino would have terrorized the SEC with this qb" so we're a little hard on Briles.


You can think that all you want, but he would have steered that ship right into the rocks. Bobby was a dickbag who can’t recruit past his first year and everyone realizes what a count of a human he truly is.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:52 am to
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We’ve had at least 50 half assed QB up the gut run plays that have been stuffed. Maybe 100. There has to be a little delay there. The QB has to at least bring the ball up for a half a second to back the linebackers off. We do neither, and KJ is lucky to get back to the LOS most times. Still calling that play in the 11th game. It’s great against directional schools for the blind, but Alabama, Auburn, LSU, aTm, Ole Miss and Mississippi State eat that shite up.


Addressed but since you rewatched, how many were with collapsing pockets?

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We pull at least one flim flam double reverse trickeration play per game, but I have yet to see one single well executed screen to a running back all season. We love double reverse handoffs, but I have yet to see a pitch out wide to a running back.


He has thrown to Rocket and Smith a few times running from the backfield. Rocket caught them and made yards a few times. Smith is all thumbs catching.

quote:

KJ is absolutely night and day from where he started.


And how much has the play calling opened up since he has learned a touch past?
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:19 am to
This one cuts deep.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 10:47 am to
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Addressed but since you rewatched, how many were with collapsing pockets?


I only counted called plays that were obviously for KJ. The only variation I counted was a play action handoff, because I can’t imagine a worse call than to fake handoff to a running back, and then send your QB into the same gap that the RB would have ran into. Almost no chance for success on a play like that, unless your O line is dominant.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18165 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:52 pm to
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I can’t imagine a worse call than to fake handoff to a running back, and then send your QB into the same gap that the RB would have ran into. Almost no chance for success on a play like that, unless your O line is dominant.
it’s called dart in most offenses, it’s the inverted veer, and he isn’t hitting the same hole, the running back goes wide and the qb is cutting it up the middle. We ran that play twice be Texas when aj green took it around the end for a touchdown and the other time when rocket took it and reversed field and I think may have scored a touchdown as well.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 2:05 pm to
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We ran that play twice be Texas when aj green took it around the end for a touchdown and the other time when rocket took it and reversed field and I think may have scored a touchdown as well.


And when KJ takes it up the gut, it is stuffed against almost all opponents where our offensive line doesn’t dominate. It draws the linebackers up to fill gaps. As you stated yourself, the only real success with the play has been when the ball is handed off.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2531 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:42 pm to
Man...I just wish we could hire a great offensive mind like Troyt37.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:01 pm to
Briles is inarguably the best we’ve had since Petrino. I just think we aren’t that far from being a great offensive team, we just throw away too many downs and series on called plays with low chance of success. No need to be an arse. I never said I could do it, but I’ve played and watched football for 40+ years. If you pay attention to it, you know what works, and what doesn’t.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/24/21 at 9:07 pm to
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We pull at least one flim flam double reverse trickeration play per game, but I have yet to see one single well executed screen to a running back all season. We love double reverse handoffs, but I have yet to see a pitch out wide to a running back.


Screens and pitches require offensive lines that can move and pull and get to different levels.

Ours have not gotten to that level yet.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47297 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 9:53 am to
that boy's got a few people pegged
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
53134 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:52 am to
quote:

just not executed.

This is why some question Briles play calling ability.

If the plays were executed properly by the players, there would be no questioning imo
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29587 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:24 pm to
Well…
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41424 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:27 pm to
A couple of those runs would have been big pickups if DJ was faster. I was saying put someone else in and then Trelon fumbles.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29587 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 3:34 pm to
I don’t dislike the guy but I’ll be happy if Briles finds another opportunity. This is pathetic.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29587 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:03 pm to
No matter how many yards we need on 3rd down Briles will find the play that throws it short of the marker.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:13 pm to
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No matter how many yards we need on 3rd down Briles will find the play that throws it short of the marker.

Every. Single. Time.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18165 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:17 pm to
I’m telling you guys a lot of the conservative playcalling is due to Pittman. You think the OC called for the kneel down there? With a qbs that’s only thrown 3 picks all year and one was a Hail Mary at half another was just a hellacious play by a Texas safety. But god forbid we try and take a shot before half with our 1st td receiver
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8726 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:17 pm to
I’m a Briles defender but he really needs to stop protecting KJ. He’s calling plays in the first quarter like you would for an inexperienced backup QB you just want to ease into the game

Edit: very possible that Briles doesn’t have full control. There’s probably a lot of scripting from the first drive or two
This post was edited on 11/26/21 at 4:18 pm
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