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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:48 pm to
Yeah I just looked too. If is private but the ark stuff is still there.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 5:53 pm to
He changed it back then because when I looked this morning it was blank and private. Good to see. It definitely got my heart racing.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22732 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 6:30 pm to
Well, he is signed... so,

Hopefully he will not only fit in well, but lead us to the promised land!
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
15319 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:17 pm to
Didn't Bert quit Wisconsin because he couldn't keep any assistant coaches?? What happened to that narrative?
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
19913 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:34 pm to
The difference is he's not losing them because of lack of resources to keep them.
Pittman has never stayed anywhere longer than 3 years I believe, and he went to play with his butt buddy. Jennings is from Texas and our secondary wasn't exactly spectacular, I don't know how hard Bret tried to keep him. Singleton went to the NFL (that's a good thing).
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
1187 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Didn't Bert quit Wisconsin because he couldn't keep any assistant coaches?? What happened to that narrative?


He left cause he couldn't pay them.... Remember the fat raises he's handed out to Enos, Smith, Pittman etc. Couldn't do that at Wisconsin.
Posted by RocktownHog52
Little Rock
Member since Sep 2013
422 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:29 pm to
Did they leave bc he couldn't pay them or did they just leave and use that excuse. Petrino is a jack arse and had more loyalty.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
24275 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:27 pm to
Serious? Alvarez won't allow his HC's to pay the going rate.

Petrino had loyalty because people weren't after the majority of his yes men. Carroll College Mafia.

Compare Garrick McGee, Willy Robinson, Mike Summers, Kirk Botkin, Reggie Johnson, Paul Petrino, Paul Haynes, John L Smith, Horton, Cinkovich, Klenakis, Caldwell, Peoples, Taver, Allen to what we've had under Bielema. It isn't close in quality.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29450 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:10 am to
Mike Anderson has kept all his assistants. I guess he's just a better coach than Bielema.
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
1206 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:42 am to
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Garrick McGee, Willy Robinson, Mike Summers, Kirk Botkin, Reggie Johnson, Paul Petrino, Paul Haynes, John L Smith, Horton, Cinkovich, Klenakis, Caldwell, Peoples, Taver, Allen to what we've had under Bielema.


Jesus that list triggered my PTSD
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Midnight
Member since Feb 2012
15319 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:03 pm to
So why isn't he opening the pocketbook to keep these guys?

If we want to keep them on staff, we should pay them to stay.

If we dont care to keep them, fire them.

Letting them shop around until February and putting us in a bad position isn't exactly ideal. Let's get this outflow under control
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

So why isn't he opening the pocketbook to keep these guys?

the only person that knows for sure is Bielema

no point in asking here
Posted by Porker Face
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:18 pm to
Here is Arkansas fan SOP for coach leaving:


Rumor phase:

1. Damn, hope _____ doesn't leave
2. Wish we could have some continuity
3. We brought this guy in for (recruiting, NFL ties, insert extremely specific reason here), hope he doesn't go to (Auburn, Texas, Georgia, LSU, etc)
4. Huge melt


Its happening phase:

1. Is is really confirmed though? No one at UA Athletics forwarded me his revised contract for review prior to departure as I requested
2. This is a case of Bielema "suggesting" he find new employment. No real loss here
3. I've never liked him
4. He was a bad fit with Bielema's system. He just doesn't understand Bielema's unique approach to getting 7 wins and a mediocre bowl every year. Glad he's gone
5. All the players he recruited suck anyway OR He was just a "coach em up" guy, we need more of a recruiter in that role


It happened phase:

1. Lol at (Auburn, Texas, Georgia, LSU, etc) they just got a really shitty coach
2. We only hired him for (recruiting, NFL ties, insert extremely specific reason here) and he sucked at that anyway. Good riddance
3. Bielema has a good track record. I trust him with assistants.
4. Every staff has this much turnover. No biggie
5. Now we can call Pete Carroll

Next coach phase:

1. Holy frick, this guy has ties to (Texas, Florida, Louisiana, state du jour). He would be a huge get
2. Let's steal a coach from (Auburn, Texas, Georgia, LSU, etc). He's a great "coach em up" guy


Disappointing hire phase:

1. Who???? WTF
2. Well Bret met him once in an airport in 2004. I support Bert getting "his guys" into key roles
3. At least we aren't paying this a-hole that much
4. He may have been fired a bunch before, but he has ties to (Texas, Florida, Louisiana, state du jour). All Bert really needs is recruits. Bert can coach em up
5. He may not be a big name, but he can't be any worse that (person who just left us). That guy sucked
6. At least we have top facilities. Coaching doesn't matter as much as a bunch of bricks and steel, especially to kids wanting to get to the NFL. BTW, have you seen our new loge boxes??? TIGHT AS frick!!!




Repeat process above
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Richards Cranium
Member since Sep 2015
443 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:23 pm to
Welp....

/Thread lol
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

So why isn't he opening the pocketbook to keep these guys?



Perhaps because our pass defense, on all levels, was hysterically bad? Jennings, by all accounts, is a great recruiter. Our secondary, by all accounts, was a blight in the eyes of the Lord.

Why not fire them?!?!?!?!?

Why not, if someone else starts sniffing around, give them a helpful "take that job and walk" nudge so we don't have to pay them to sit around on their backsides and do nothing?

There are people you want to keep. We've fought hard to keep those people, and other then Pittman, have done fairly well at keeping them. There are people you can live without. When we've had the chance we've let them go.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46364 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:03 pm to
on paper jennings looked like a really good hire when he came in.

turns out he didn't work out for whatever reason, his potential never materialized here. now Texas sees the same thing on paper that we did and is hoping he works out for them.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

So why isn't he opening the pocketbook to keep these guys?


Maybe it isn't about the money to some of them. Singleton and Thomas left for the NFL. Partridge, Shannon and Jennings left to go back to their home states. If we want to keep getting guys with Texas connections then they'll also be more likely to be hired away by a P5 Texas school.

This may not be the thought process of most coaches but even if I was a position coach for Alabama I'd come to Arkansas in a heartbeat if I was offered the job.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
46364 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Let's get this outflow under control

Frank Broyles assistants

Barry Switzer: 1961-1965
Johnny Majors: 1964-1967
Joe Gibbs: 1971-1972
Hayden Fry: 1961
Jimmy Johnson: 1973-1976
Posted by DarrionFrmArk
Member since Dec 2014
1187 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

So why isn't he opening the pocketbook to keep these guys?



He has.... He just doubled what Enos was getting paid. Robb Smith got a huge bump after last season, he doubled Pittman salary after he turned down Bama. Matter of fact, I think Bert bumped up everyone's salary last season.

quote:

If we want to keep them on staff, we should pay them to stay. 



Nobody who has left is leaving for money....
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36759 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 7:26 pm to
What I heard was that smith and jennings didn't get along all that well. Take that with a grain of salt but that's the rumor.
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