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re: Irwin lays out what happened in Coaching search: Lunney was apparently very, very close
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:10 am to hilltophog
Posted on 1/1/20 at 7:10 am to hilltophog
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I'll never understand their mentality either....
It's impossible to understand the GOBN. Steve Cox is the only one who GAF about winning and losing. Remember these are the same tards that Ok'd JCP and Chaggie.
I worked with Irwin in the 70's at KFSM and he's more connected than most folks think. Does he like to stir the pot, well yes but most of what he puts out there has substance. He's not a hack like Wally Hall. He and Cox are very close so I'd say that this report has some truth to it.
Bring on the downvotes, my body is ready.
Happy New Year Ya'll!
#Hogs2020
See ya'll in OmaHog!
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:08 am to oklahogjr
Lunney just needs a resume. Sure, Pittman had no head coaching experience either, but has a much broader base of experience.
Hopefully, by the next time we need a coach, Lunney will have shown his abilities and won't be pissed at the UofA like Malzhan is.
Hopefully, by the next time we need a coach, Lunney will have shown his abilities and won't be pissed at the UofA like Malzhan is.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:49 am to WonderWartHawg
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Some of you must have been sleeping walking on the Friday before Pittman was hired on Sunday. There were rumors all over the place that Lunney was seriously in the running including a couple of tweets from national writers. When I came to work on Friday afternoon I was told by somebody very close to the situation that Lunney had the job. This was before the BOT balked.
Yurachek was already high on Lunney when he made him the interim head coach. In the job interview Lunney blew Yuracheck away with an incredibly detailed rework of the existing budget for football. Basically he showed where money had been wasted and how it could be better spent. He also offered a intricate plan on recruiting with examples of past failures and what could have been done to prevent those failures. Finally he named his staff and offered to put Yurachek in touch with each of them to verify that they would take the job if Lunney was hired.
In case some of you haven't figured it out Yurachek is not concerned how a hire will look. He has his own guidelines on what he's looking for and he trusts his own judgement.
I think Pittman was was a very good hire but I do not agree that Lunney would have been a disaster. I know too much about that situation to believe that.
Irwin not giving up on this one.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:52 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
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They wanted Butch but never pressed the issue until they realized that Yuracheck was about to hire Lunney. Part of the problem with some of you guys is you apparently are laboring under the illusion that Yuracheck had lots of choices. He did not.
Campbell was not interested. Neither was Norvell. Leach wanted a big buyout. The guy is no dummy. If he was going to leave a comfortable job and jump into the fire that is the SEC West at a school as down as Arkansas is, he wanted some insurance that he wasn't going to get dumped after two years like Morris.
The Job was Kiffin's until his agent tried to play Ole Miss and Arkansas against each other. Yurachek was not interested in a short term hire and Davis, at age 68, was that.
Yurachek kept hearing from other candidates that they might be able to lure Pittman from Georgia as their O-Line coach. Then he heard that Pittman had said he would only come as the head coach. That was the first he'd heard that Pittman wanted the job and couldn't figure out why he had not been asked to interview. So he called him and there was an instant connection much like there was with Musselman.
These coach searches are not wrapped up in a neat little bow. They can take unexpected twists and turns.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:55 am to WonderWartHawg
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Lunney just needs a resume. Sure, Pittman had no head coaching experience either, but has a much broader base of experience.
Hopefully, by the next time we need a coach, Lunney will have shown his abilities and won't be pissed at the UofA like Malzhan is.
Pittman has bern a part of se real successful programs in the sec. lunney has not. its kinda that simple when you compare the two Pittman I'd much more experienced even though neither is really exerienced
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:56 am to ArHog
Irwin usually isn't judt totally makingby not up. someone for sure told him this and he is reporting it. now whether or not it's been fully vetted and wont have caveats is a whole other thing
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:31 am to oklahogjr
Irwin is one of the sacred cows on tardville. Like most of y’all I’ve followed several coaching searches. Like the others on tardville he gets the coaching searchs wrong in real time. Then later we get a fictional post morten about how they were right all along but something changed at the last minute.
I don’t believe for a second that Lunney was a serious candidate.
I don’t believe for a second that Lunney was a serious candidate.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:37 am to Poker_hog
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Irwin is one of the sacred cows on tardville. Like most of y’all I’ve followed several coaching searches. Like the others on tardville he gets the coaching searchs wrong in real time. Then later we get a fictional post morten about how they were right all along but something changed at the last minute.
I don’t believe for a second that Lunney was a serious candidate.
most likely this someone or several someones timelines cobbled together to tell a story.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:45 am to FayetteNAM
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Honestly I think Lunney leaving is great for him. He needs to get a bigger set of coaching friends.
Agreed.
I like Lunney, but if given the choice between Lunney and Pittman, I'd choose Pittman with little hesitation, and that's not myopia or being prisoner of the moment.
Pittman has had the longer career, has worked under numerous coaches and in several different systems and programs, is a better and more well established recruiter, and has more contacts in the coaching world from which to assemble a staff.
The last callout is the most important for a career assistant making the jump to HC, and it was arguably the biggest reason why Morris failed miserably. Being just a few years removed from coaching in high school, his coaching contacts were minuscule, hence getting an offensive staff littered with guys a few years removed from being GA's and a defensive staff full of retreads looking for one last pre-retirement paycheck.
Since Lunney is looking to move his career along, the natural next step was for him to branch out to build his resume and network.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:15 am to VagueMessage
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Others update people on what Trey Biddy thinks.
You can learn more about what's going on with Razorback athletics by spending 2 hours drinking at a Fayetteville sports bar than you can get from Biddy in a week.
Plus you actually get something for your money at the bar.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:17 am to Poker_hog
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Irwin is one of the sacred cows on tardville. Like most of y’all I’ve followed several coaching searches. Like the others on tardville he gets the coaching searchs wrong in real time. Then later we get a fictional post morten about how they were right all along but something changed at the last minute.
I don’t believe for a second that Lunney was a serious candidate.
Irwin is a weird character. It cringes me to think he's the face of Arkansas sports media to some people.
Look at who runs Hogville and it isn't hard to understand why they think "somebody whose on thuh TEE-VEE" is impressive and knows more than the average fan.
And your assessment of Irwin is correct.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:19 pm to Numberwang
I respect and admire Barry Lunney for all he has done for the Razorbacks as player and coach.
That stated if we had hired him as Head Coach with the state of this program now we may turned the first spade to burial as an SEC contender.
It would have been great to keep him on staff but he needs to make is own legacy away from NWA then return when the time is right and he has proven himself.
That stated if we had hired him as Head Coach with the state of this program now we may turned the first spade to burial as an SEC contender.
It would have been great to keep him on staff but he needs to make is own legacy away from NWA then return when the time is right and he has proven himself.
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