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re: If Petrino was named Briles…

Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:03 pm to
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Y'all realize we never had first year QB start under Petrino during his first tenure, right? Mallett was sitting behind Dick learning the offense in 08 before he started in 09.

I do. That's my biggest concern with petrino is we're no longer in that structure where kids stay and get developed....we're in an era where the coach who can get the most value the quickest out of athletes are building the best teams.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:05 pm to
Petrino could have found better QBs from the portal.

Boise was happy to dump him on Arkansas.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:05 pm to
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we're in an era where the coach who can get the most value the quickest out of athletes are building the best teams.
I don't think that's true of QBs. Most of the successful teams you see right now have QBs that have been in the system a while.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Petrino could have found better QBs from the portal.

Boise was happy to dump him on Arkansas.
Fully agree here. I think Petrino underestimated just how deeply flawed Green is.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:17 pm to
The pressure isn't on Petrino because he doesn't care. That final decision is on Sam and with his seat so hot, you don't take a chance on Green. If this was year one then yes but Sam isn't really worried so it doesn't matter.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:22 pm to
Are any of these OL Petrino guys?

Could you imagine if we had a Dick or Mallett with no legs and this OL?
This post was edited on 9/28/24 at 8:23 pm
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:23 pm to
I don't know but it looks like they were shopping at the clearance section at Walmart.
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:24 pm to
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you don't take a chance on Green. If this was year one then yes
It's also confusing to me that they would make this decision on a junior. If he was younger I'd understand a little more, but at most we'll get a good year out of him next year and that's it.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:26 pm to
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Could you imagine if we had a Dick or Mallett with no legs and this OL?
Lord have mercy.

Granted I think Mallett would be a bit better at hitting those quick slants over the middle to help relieve some of the pressure. He also could read a defense and audible at the line.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:41 pm to
The defense gave up two sustained scoring drives all game. They were put in a bad spot for A&Ms second TD. Are we seriously trying to blame the defense? Are we watching the same game?
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:41 pm to
Once Pittman is fired Green will be gone as the new coach isn't going to waste his time with a RS senior.

They made that decision because both knew they wouldn't be here next year.
Posted by PorkSammich
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:46 pm to
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Our offense had the lead in the 4th quarter.


Doesn’t seem like you understand the game of football very well.
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:50 pm to
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The defense gave it up. Period.


It’s a team game. Defense did enough to win. Offense is just arse
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:04 pm to
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Doesn’t seem like you understand the game of football very well.
Don't really give a shite what you think, to be honest. I've seen enough kneejerk takes on this board to last a lifetime.

Just trying to figure out why your logic applies to our defense but not A&M's when their offense was just as bad as ours. They gave up 0 points in the 4th quarter.

A&M's defense was on the field longer than ours. What's the excuse?

This post was edited on 9/28/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Once Pittman is fired Green will be gone as the new coach isn't going to waste his time with a RS senior.

Accept reality we need to find a coach who can come in get transfers, and get the absolute most out of them immediately. Then we need to selectively pull high schoolers that make sense and will be here for multiple years. Waste zero effort developing any player for another program and instead focus on maximizing what we have as quickly as possible.

Posted by CFB_Fanatic
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:15 pm to
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They gave up 0 points in the 4th quarter.


If our OL wasn’t a shite sandwich they would have. Multiple guys open downfield meanwhile Taylen running for his life bc the DL beats the snap to him
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:16 pm to
Why couldn't our DL get the same type of pressure?
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:35 pm to
Not sure I can fathom how anyone would blame the defense for this loss when our dipshit offense committed 3 turnovers (one of which was on our own 10) and another one in the form of a forehead slapper of a fake kick attempt that of course failed miserably.

Starting field position is a key indicator as well. Ours was our own 18 (it was well inside that until late in the game), whereas A&M’s was their own 34. We could never flip the field on them on offense.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:39 pm to
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Not sure I can fathom how anyone would blame the defense for this loss
I don't see anyone blaming the defense for the loss. It's absolutely their fault we lost the lead in the 4th quarter, though. They were the ones on the field getting marched on with the game on the line. It's also not an isolated incident under TWill, but we can't be objective I guess.

The initial excuse was being on the field too long, but now it's been brought up that our defense was actually on the field less than the opponent, so now I'm curious as to why they shouldn't be held responsible for being unable to hold a lead in the final quarter.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:46 pm to
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It's also not an isolated incident under TWill


It’s certainly not an isolated incident with Pittman who has a more than adequate sample size.

6-16 in one score games, with one of those 6 wins being the Liberty Bowl where we were beating the shite out of Kansas and let them off the mat to force OT.
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