re: I Stand in Awe of Arkansas' Legislators

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Discrimination comes into play when you refuse them the same rights that you afford to everyone else.

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Nobody is (or has been) talking about making anyone sit at the back of the bus - except the LGBT's screaming that's what this bill is all about. That WOULD be discrimination.

However, for example, if a same sex couple wanted me to sing at their wedding, I have the right to say 'no thank you.' without them getting all pissy and butthurt and threatening to sue me. That is not discrimination. Actually, they can get pissy and butthurt if they want too, but they have no right to sue me, organize protests against me or otherwise attack me because of my beliefs.

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Dale, no, He doesn't think it's a-ok.

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Then he must think it s a sin that money can cure...

Apparently claiming to have prior engagements planned for that date is too difficult of a concept for him to grasp, he must do it if they ask or they will sue.

The gave errr jobs.

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I Stand in Awe of Arkansas' Legislators It made the state a laughing stock. It might have scared off companies looking to invest in the state. And most importantly of all... it was purely unneeded. The state shot itself in the pecker for a completely unnecessary bill that did little more then irritate Walmart greatly. I would think the vast majority of not only tFlagship fans but residents of this state would very strongly support a religious freedom bill... if religious freedoms were being infringed upon. Disliking homosexuals is not an inherent religious freedom.

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Isn't the bill that was passed yesterday was the same that Clinton signed into law and the same that 18 or so states already have on the books?

After the proposed law in Fayetteville and the way the Mayor of Houston tried to subpoena the sermons of pastors in Houston, yes religious people do have a right to be worried that they are being targeted by the LGBT. In fact, can anyone here say with certainty that Fayetteville officials would never try similar tactics at some point?

I personally believe that a person or church who does have legitimate religious convictions should have freedom to adhere to them. Just because any of us disagree with their faith doesn't mean we are superior or have a greater right to tell them what to do. The whole cake shop was targeted by LGBT to create an issue, and the owners jumped in head first. I also believe those folks who disagree should be able to protest or vocalize their displeasure (sadly, both sides seem to have those who like to give death threats).

The political and public entities (such as Apple) who say they are going to boycott Arkansas continue doing businesses with countries who do far worse things against LGBT, ethnic and cultural minorities, and others, than the worst discriminator in Arkansas could. Their comments are just that, comments. iPhones will not be pulled off the shelves and companies really care a lot more about the tax laws on the books, regulatory environment, infrastructure and the workforce already in place in Arkansas than they care about this religious freedom bill. It's just lip service.

The purpose of this "issue" serves the same function as sports, sitcoms, and the other distractions the sheeple bleat about while ignoring Washington. Please let your hysterics continue.

I actually agree with most of what you said, my comments on the Arkansas legislature was more so that they're playing into this game so easily. I understand the politicians in this aspect that supported the bill probably just got more support in their respective districts because of the composition of the populous, so in that sense it was a good move by them.

However, in the greater sense it doesn't do the legislature any favors as now the populous will be even more focused on legislation that comes out of the capital, which never ends well. Although I agree with democracy relative to the alternatives, the populous usually does a shitty job of governing.

"The populous will always get the politicians they deserve"

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After the proposed law in Fayetteville and the way the Mayor of Houston tried to subpoena the sermons of pastors in Houston, yes religious people do have a right to be worried that they are being targeted by the LGBT. In fact, can anyone here say with certainty that Fayetteville officials would never try similar tactics at some point?

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What in the world are you talking about? How could you possibly construe Fayetteville's anti-discrimination ordinance as an attack by the LGBT community against Christians? The ordinance explicitly stated that religious institutions would not be required to host groups if doing so would violate the institution's principles.

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I personally believe that a person or church who does have legitimate religious convictions should have freedom to adhere to them.

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I agree, so long as doing so does not violate another person's rights, as the cake shop did. Surely you must agree that there must be a limit to what kind of behaviors a person's religious convictions can justify. This is where the 'compelling interest' test comes into play.

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The purpose of this "issue" serves the same function as sports, sitcoms, and the other distractions the sheeple bleat about while ignoring Washington. Please let your hysterics continue.

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I think it's shameful that you're trivializing a legitimate civil rights issue like this. I think this speaks to the shallowness with which you've regarded this subject: you don't even see this issue as legitimate. That would explain why you have very basic misconceptions about the Fayetteville ordinance.

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The Indiana pizzeria that was the first to openly discriminate against gays under the new law has closed.



No they've not.

As of this evening they've been given, in donations, over 3 times what they make in a single year.

They're doing fine.

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They closed the restaurant. Not sure what you've been reading. There's a crowd fund but the restaurant is still closed.

And on the flip side, it appears this business has no problem discriminating, but when it happens to them they close up shop and leave town.

Not really a laughing matter when it's terroristic threats is it?

The coach who made the threat of burning down the pizzeria has been suspended and deleted her Twitter account.