re: Election Day

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First of all your first job was not at Arvest. Guess you forgot that I know you and your Dad.

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Thirdly, before you pretend to understand what owners should pay their employees, maybe try and run a lemonade stand with 2 employees, then get back to me.

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My dad has owned a fencing company since I was 11. I've been in his ear about how he runs it since I was old enough to care. If you knew my dad and I like you say you do, you'd know that. If you can't pay your employees a wage that gets them out of poverty working full-time your business deserves to die.

Our only minimum wage folks are part time college kids and they get 10 bucks an hour, I feel perfectly good about that. But not every business can afford to do so nor would want to, and I think it’s bs that in 2 years the minimum wage in the 3rd lowest cost of living state is going to be 11 dollars, the minimum wage currently in NY is 11.10. It’s almost laughable that ours is going to be that high.

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3rd lowest cost of living state i

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Wont be there for long now.

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See my earlier post about the catfish restaurant. What would you do in that scenario, smart guy?

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If you can't pay your employees a wage that gets them out of poverty working full-time your business deserves to die.

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If you can't operate your business with the amount of employees you can afford to employ, you're running a failing business. Failing businesses die. Keeping alive a struggling business at the expense of putting every employee that isn't the owner on a wage that qualifies for food stamps is not a solution.

Me either, a normal uppage would be fine with me but geez 2.50 hike in a little over 2 years is really going to hurt some places I think.

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What dows the AAA have to do with anything?

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you must not be familiar with where a lot of demand for machine shops come from. you're most profitable machine shops across the state are members.

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Also for sure you can go to Conway right now, and apply at DBG. (used to be IC Corp) they make all the buses off dave ward. They start their press brake guys at 17 an hour. Right now. they are hiring. I have a friend who worked there when he moved to conway. These places are all over. They may not all pay the same, but they are more than minimum even after this increase. They also pretty much all hire felons. They are dirty metal fab shops, but by god they will teach you a skill, and pay you more than minimum wage. When i did it i was paid $16 an hour, and the company i worked for paid my insurance premiums. So really when it all added up i was being paid closer to $20 because i wasn't losing money to soaring ACA premiums. 

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sounds like the problem is were paying these lazy frick fabricators more than they're worth. if it's as easy to get into and do the work as you say.... it's not but arguing with someone who understands the metal fabrication industry as poorly as you isn't really worth arguing with.

FWIW I spent 5 years consulting and working with machine shops across the state. I've been in a majority of them and seen their operations first hand guided by plant managers and owners who explained their struggles to me.

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should be pegged to cost of living driver metrics.

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Thought about this as well. There's no reason for minimum wage in Arkansas to be what it is in New York.

for the life of me, how do some folks not get this.

Minimum wage jobs were began, and will continue to be just that, MINIMUM WAGE for those with minimum education, or ability. They were and should continue to be for a start in life. Not a life long paradox of futility.

We have so many folks, in the community that I live in, on food stamps for their 4 kids, getting wic, NADC payments for their utilities, going to the local food room and drawing all kinds of government payments that want to keep doing their minimum wage job for one reason. Without it, they lose all of those benefits including free medical care.

If one of my family members goes to the ER, it is an automatic 250.00 copay with another 20% co insurance and that is while we pay over 800.00 a month for that said coverage.

If I were at McDonalds... it wouldn't cost me a damn thing. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. I am sick of subsidizing these low life (Not everyone is, but there are way more than we wish to believe) users.

Get a job, move up, give a damn about your lives to the point to get some training, education, job skills and prevail. If not, then please just continue at Minimum wage.

Next....

Product costs will go up, supply chain management costs will go up, the consumers will pay for this and our states economy will suffer from it overall. THis was a stupid decision at the amount that won in the election.

OK< RANT ON/OFF!

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Product costs will go up, supply chain management costs will go up, the consumers will pay for this and our states economy will suffer from it overall. THis was a stupid decision at the amount that won in the election.

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consumers wont pay for it. automation will continue to erode these factory jobs more and more. as the skilled labor in this field are actually writing the machine code to make the laser cutter run. you just stand a minimum wage guy next to the machine doing the cutting to put on next piece and remove the current one. and that guy may or may not already be slated for replacement by a robot....seriously was working with a metal shop r and d team on this 4 years ago or so...its coming to factories near you.

my point is this, minimum wage needed to be raised some. everything has gone up sky high except wages. the more things cost the more people need to have. a chance. were not teaching the right skillsets for work anymore in school this people must spend more of their own time and money to acquire those skills which is a bigger drain on the economy than raising the minimum wage. but no one seems in a rush to address that so yall got a minimum wage bandaid.