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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:29 pm to
I just don't get the logic behind framing Bobby as washed up when the only side of the ball he had his hands on is one of the best in the conference. Obviously I'd like to be winning these games, but I'm also not sure why people are so willing to blame the shortcomings of this team on a guy who didn't even take over until the middle of the season while the aspect he was actually in charge of the whole time is the only reason we are competitive rather than having a repeat of the Morris weekly blowout years.

I get being skeptical, but there's enough substance here to at least be willing to make him the backup guy in one of the most crowded coaching carousels I can ever remember. We're 14th in NIL investment in the conference yet he's created a top 3 offense out of that. He's not getting the credit he deserves from some in that regard at all.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted by PineyWoodsHog
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:45 pm to
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I just don't get the logic behind framing Bobby as washed up when the only side of the ball he had his hands on is one of the best in the conference.


AND the other side of the ball has significantly and steadily improved since he got the interim tag.

There are some that base their opposition to Bobby in a reasonable manner. But it's obvious that the majority are simply against I'm because they still old a grudge for the way is first stint ended. And that's fine, just don't try to pass it off as "he's washed up" or whatever because there is is literally no evidence of that.

Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:47 pm to
Arkansas is not 14th in NIL.

HY farmed NIL to blueprint sports (the agreement was recently terminated) they used they template to create Arkansas edge (same as Maryland one, etc).

Blueprint Sports' NIL payment structure involves a revenue-sharing model with schools, where the company receives a percentage of profits from NIL deals it manages. This includes a fixed management fee, a profit-sharing split based on performance, and a contract administration fee. For example, in an agreement with Oregon State, Blueprint takes 75% of the net direct revenue between a baseline fundraising target ($750,000 in year one) and $1.15 million, and 50% of the revenue above $1.15 million.

So Arkansas only had 14th in the SEC money to pay due to the deal HY worked out to not be bothered with dealing with something he never wanted in NIL. They real number of NIL fund raising was far, far, greater than what was available.

Key components of the payment structure
Annual management fee: A fixed annual fee is paid by the school to Blueprint, such as the approximate $284,000 the school pays Blueprint annually.
Profit-sharing based on revenue:
Baseline target: Blueprint's share is based on a guaranteed fundraising baseline, which increases annually.
Tiered revenue share: Blueprint takes a percentage of revenue above the baseline.
For revenue between the baseline and a set amount (e.g., $1.15 million), Blueprint receives 75%.
For revenue above that amount, Blueprint receives 50%.
Contract administration fee: Blueprint also receives a percentage (e.g., 1.25%) of all NIL compensation it administers.
Example of total payout
If Blueprint generates $3 million in net direct revenue in a year, the total payout to Blueprint (including management fee, profit share, and administration fee) could be over $1.5 million, or slightly more than half of the generated revenue.

Knowing this HY went to the LR TD club and publicly claimed the program was broke in NIL and could not compete money wise, know that was available was roughly half of what was raised.

Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:51 pm to
I'm not talking about potential money raised. I don't doubt there's a frick ton of money being wasted, but I'm talking about the actual total being directly used for the football roster. In that regard we are 14th in spending.
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:53 pm to
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I get being skeptical, but there's enough substance here to at least be willing to make him the backup guy in one of the most crowded coaching carousels I can ever remember. We're 14th in NIL investment in the conference yet he's created a top 3 offense out of that. He's not getting the credit he deserves from some in that regard at all.


His top three offense wonder weapon coughed the ball up late in 4 games we had a shot to win. The last two games, against fellow bottom feeding programs, it utterly self destructed late in the game. It vanished at the end of the 1st quarter against Notre Dame.

If you are a booster. If you are someone who might pump up that NIL money. Would anything you've seen out of Petrino convince you that "by God we keep losing with him, but if I threw even more money at him we could turn the corner!"

Yes, there were some bad calls against us, but Bobby's temper tantrum and the team meltdown that followed it has put paid to him being the next HC barring Petrino miracles us to three wins to end the season. Even then I think the big money donors are ready to see him ride off into the sunset.

To borrow a line from Star Trek. "He's dead, Jim." Lets not spend a season dragging the corpse around.

Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:54 pm to
And it was roughly half of what was raised.

So Arkansas had roughly 10million to spend in NIL, of they handles this in house that number to spend would have been 20 mil which is on par with Alabama.

HY did this himself, then blamed the fans and boosters for the amount being low.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 4:58 pm to
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His top three offense wonder weapon coughed the ball up late in 4 games we had a shot to win. The last two games, against fellow bottom feeding programs, it utterly self destructed late in the game.
And literally none of this would be an issue if we didn't have to be damn near flawless and score 40 points every single week to even have a shot at winning the game.

I'm sorry but if you look at this team and think the main issue is Petrino's offense, I can't take you seriously. We average 35 points per game and have two wins. Both Alabama and Georgia average less than that and are a combined 14-2 with middle of the pack defenses.

Offense is not the problem.
This post was edited on 11/2/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:00 pm to
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His top three offense wonder weapon coughed the ball up late in 4 games we had a shot to win. The last two games, against fellow bottom feeding programs, it utterly self destructed late in the game. It vanished at the end of the 1st quarter against Notre Dame.


This is really the only criticism of Bobby that I can say is made in earnest. He keeps trying to create a Lamar/Mallett. With his offense a good game manager is way better. Keeps chains moving. You don’t need a guy who runs a 4.4 or a guy who can throw it 70. You need a guy who has perfect timing and enough legs to extend a play.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64833 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:01 pm to
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And it was roughly half of what was raised.

So Arkansas had roughly 10million to spend in NIL, of they handles this in house that number to spend would have been 20 mil which is on par with Alabama.

HY did this himself, then blamed the fans and boosters for the amount being low.
You'll get no argument from me here. I'm no fan of HY and have always believed we should/could be better in the NIL game. I'm just talking from the perspective of what funds were ultimately available for the staff to use.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:06 pm to
Which was half of money raised.

Football is the only program struggling with NIL.

Oregon State, Penn State, Maryland and NC State all used blueprint and all have expressed trouble competing in NIL. All will be looking for a new head coach this off season.

Basically it is a lie Arkansas was last in the sec in NIL, they fans did their part and HY gave half of this money away to blueprint. Don't repeat the lie told by HY that Arkansas is NIL poor.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Don't repeat the lie told by HY that Arkansas is NIL poor.
I'm not saying we're poor and can't get more, but it's an objective truth that we're almost dead last in football roster spending this year. The point I was making was that Petrino made a top offense with one of the cheapest rosters in the conference. That's it.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:12 pm to
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The point I was making was that Petrino made a top offense with one of the cheapest rosters in the conference. That's it.


0 SEC wins
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43537 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:12 pm to
And if the program had all the money raised a defense could have been paid for and we wouldn't be looking at coordinators to be the next HC.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64833 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:13 pm to
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And if the program had all the money raised a defense could have been paid for and we wouldn't be looking at coordinators to be the next HC.
Exactly.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64833 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 5:18 pm to
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0 SEC wins
Thanks to the worst defense in the conference by a very wide margin. We are now the only defense in the conference that averages giving up over 400 yards per game. We are one of only two defenses that averages giving up over 30 points per game.

Again, the side of the ball Petrino had no part in recruiting/developing.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 6:43 pm to
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we wouldn't be looking at coordinators to be the next HC.


We really need community notes under your posts
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/2/25 at 6:47 pm to
Where is all this Blueprint info from?

Did someone pull a FOIA?
Posted by CFB_Fanatic
Member since Aug 2016
2744 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 6:52 pm to
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Thank you for proving my point.


lol I didn’t prove anything except that it was a bad comparison. But you can wake up every morning with a stiffy now, bc Bobby isn’t gonna be the coach.

Hope the coach we get is half as good as Bobby, though I highly doubt that will be the case. We’ll end up with some mid major coach that’ll go 3-9, 5-7, 6-6, 4-8 then get fired. Rinse and repeat.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8941 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 6:52 pm to
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Thanks to the worst defense in the conference by a very wide margin. We are now the only defense in the conference that averages giving up over 400 yards per game. We are one of only two defenses that averages giving up over 30 points per game.

Again, the side of the ball Petrino had no part in recruiting/developing.


These are the same people who argued to fire Briles for not scoring enough when Odom was giving up 30+, because it’s always the offense never the defense.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38253 posts
Posted on 11/2/25 at 7:01 pm to
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Again, the side of the ball Petrino had no part in recruiting/developing.



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