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re: BBall. What the frick is going on here.

Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:18 pm to
You have been from the get go so be careful.
Posted by dammitbert
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:31 pm to
Shooting 35% is the bees knees nowadays. Noted.

Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:32 pm to
This team needs J.D Notae
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:10 pm to
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This team needs J.D Notae


or Umude
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18301 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:13 pm to
Umude had a beautiful shot, man I miss seeing that
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8687 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:55 am to
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Yeah it's pretty bad when your PG is leading the team in rebounds by double anyone else, and playing lock down D on a lotto pick, and making all his FT's, and making our only 2 threes the entire game, and having a double double.

We have some really dumb basketball posters.


You forgot to mention that he tied for the lead in assists.

Seriously, if Devo's last name were Notae, all of his critics would be praising him for his performance.

Personally, I blame Muss. He's wise enough to recognize that Devo is important, but refuses to reign in the wild shots. Not just with Devo, but everyone.

I'm not going to bash Muss, because he's obviously a good coach and we're lucky to have him, but I've never been a fan of NBA coaches in the college game.
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:18 am to
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Sears shot 7/16 from the field too, one shot better than Devo, 2/4 from three one shot worse than Devo.


He's also who Devo would normally cover, if Devo didn't have to cover the SEC's leading scorer tonight. I don't know if that was the right decision by Muss, but Devo certainly held Miller in check.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:20 am to
Yeah man I really don't get it, Devo had a strong game. The least of our problems tonight.

I think some just don't like him and hold a grudge towards him from stepping away from the team for a week earlier in the year honestly.

And on the flip people really like AB so no one ever says shite about how awful he has been for a month now.

AB went 2/12 FG 0/3 3PT 1/5 FT 4 turnovers 5 points 5 fouls. Like my god. And he's a projected top 5 pick. The 1/5 free throws probably pisses me off the most just because we've been so bad there and zero progress even at home.

Walsh saw his minutes drop to just 17 last night because again he is just nothing on offense. One wide open uncontested three attempt and clunked it. 1/5 FG 0/1 3PT 2 points 2 REB. This is why Walsh is no longer projected to be drafted.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 2:46 am
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:35 am to
I think Devo has always been an easy target for fans, because he's not a great shooter. Seems you have to be a great shooter to excel today, unless you're JD Notae.

I also blame Muss for not giving him a more defined role. That's true for most everyone on the team, but Devo gets picked on more for his shooting.

But you're right... He had a great game against Alabama and doesn't deserve the criticism he's received from some here. The only thing they can criticize is his FG% and it was only slightly lower than the team FG%.

Graham also looked good, and though I know some will disagree, I think Pinion should have played more. Maybe then Devo wouldn't have our only 3pt baskets for the game?
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:45 am to
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I also blame Muss for not giving him a more defined role. That's true for most everyone on the team, but Devo gets picked on more for his shooting.


For sure, we've went back to Devo running the point I assume to try and get AB going but he's just struggling all over regardless.

No offense from Walsh and AB in a major funk we just can't sustain on offense, not against good top tier teams. Not without NSJ.

I think we'd be seeing NSJ even run some point in a Notae role right now and we ride or die on offense with him. AB to the bench.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 2:47 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68484 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:52 am to
Also Vanderbilt in that funky arse gym first time for most of our team has disaster written all over it. Vandy is fairly solid this year too.

But sports can be funky and maybe we shoot lights out and break out in that shithole.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 5:45 am to
I feel like I say this every year, but Muss has his work cut out for him with this group.

Last night it felt like a younger team let the refs eventually take it toll on them. Alabama shot 36 free throws in our arena. Crazy.

Muss likes defense, but it feels like he is just going to have to play guys (Pinion, Graham) that can score but aren’t great on defense eventually in order to generate more offense. Black and Walsh have probably been the most disappointing to me in this stretch.

Here’s we are though, 1-3 in league play again. Seems like every year. Last night at The Bud, even with no students the crowd was great. I think we got it to like 50-52 or something like that and then we just couldn’t score. I thought we found the recipe there when we had the Mitchell twins and Graham in at the same time, but alas, fouls on Makhi sent him to the bench.

Not sure what the recipe is going to be moving forward. AB hasn’t played like he did in Maui in quite a while. Walsh isn’t doing anything on the offensive end. Council and Devo are super streaky. So I dunno…some how they’ve got to try and minimize the losses before NSJ gets back. That may be a tall task.

This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 5:46 am
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9056 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:46 am to
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This is why Walsh is no longer projected to be drafted


He's a tweener much like Michael Qualls was.

I just hope he can develop into a productive player like Qualls did.

When I watch Jordan shoot his form looks decent so if he can become a 30-35 percent three point shooter he will work his way to the NBA.

He's been learning the hard way that you can't go in the paint soft. High school competition is a joke compared to what he's facing now. Your athleticism becomes less advantageous as you move up in basketball. You have to work on the rest of your game.

I honestly saw it after I watched the MCD AA game. I thought he was the most raw out of the three. But people were saying he was a first round draft pick. I'm thinking to myself are people that dumb?

If he can focus on ball handling, and really get into the gym and work on his shot, then the sky is the limit.

Until he becomes a decent shooter he will be easy to guard. Just sag off of him and let him force up a terrible shot.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 7:47 am
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9056 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:54 am to
In regards to AB.

He's got the mind of an NBA PG. His positioning, driving ability, finishing thru contact is next level stuff.

The only thing that's holding him back is his shooting.

He's a little too flat footed when he shoots. And his shot is way too flat as well.

Shooting form is one of those tricky deals. It can really screw up a kids confidence if you mess with it. But I believe if the individual is willing to make some adjustments and put in the necessary work, then the shooting form can change for the better.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19330 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 8:02 am to
We are so bad offensively I almost think we should slow the game down and completely exhaust ourselves defensively. Like the Virginia team that won the National Title.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15401 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 8:17 am to
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He's got the mind of an NBA PG.

The only thing that's holding him back is his shooting.

I'm somewhat shocked at how poorly he shoots the ball. Even more shocking is how high he's projected. Then again, I'll admit I know little about what the NBA looks for in a player.

I do know his shot isn't good, and that in and of itself sure does seem like a big deal on draftability.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20387 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:01 pm to
We aren't scoring because the two guys who were supposed to be our main scorers are sitting on the bench. One with a torn ACL, the other with a whatever he has injury.

A line up of NSJ, Brazile, Council, Black, and Mitchell would be undefeated in conference right now.

Then you have Walsh, Graham, Devo, and Kamani as your spot minutes.


This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by vodka
Member since Sep 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:09 pm to
1. The schedule gets easier, much easier, until we play bama and tenneesee on the road back to back at the end of the year.


2. walsh is very raw and has no confidence in his shot right now. but he's the best defensive wing i've ever seen with my own two eyes. he's not a tweaner he's a legit 6'7 / 6
8. he can bully less athletic guys but needs to stick around and gain more skill


3. It won't happen in a million years, but I think Black should consider coming back for 1 more year, simply because 1. next year isn't as deep as this years draft and 2. he could legitimately be a top 2-3 pick with an outside shot
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:20 pm to
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3. It won't happen in a million years, but I think Black should consider coming back for 1 more year, simply because 1. next year isn't as deep as this years draft and 2. he could legitimately be a top 2-3 pick with an outside shot


He should legitimately spend a whole offseason re-developing his form. He and Council would greatly benefit re-developing their forms.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9056 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:26 pm to
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2. walsh is very raw and has no confidence in his shot right now. but he's the best defensive wing i've ever seen with my own two eyes. he's not a tweaner he's a legit 6'7 / 6


He's not a big, and he's not a true guard. He is a tweener. That is until he can develop some sort of offensive production.

He's an average height shooting guard in the NBA.


His defense is what gives him PT right now.

"“Tweeners” are the NBA's version of players who don't really fit into one specific position, but ones who can dominate in two. The most common form is a player who can rotate between both guard spots or someone who has the size and quickness to play both forward spots."

He fits that to a T sans the offense.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:31 pm
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