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Will College Football 2.0 be a farm league, or an NFL rival
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:02 am
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:02 am
The products have always targeted different demographics. College Football appealed more to the middle class/ upper middle class, suburban set, or the masses in the south. The NFL to the blue state, urban types.
But with NIL, and with half the power five schools going away, does that erode the size of the College Target market?
I feel like we are entering a period where the products are somewhat in competition.
What is the Marketing
strategy for College Football 2.0?
If these players get all caught up in NIL and cease to be students, and if the alums engage in open bidding wars, I'm afraid we devolve into a farm league. And that will kill the windfall profits and the game itself.
On the other hand, the NFL has alienated many people. The game itself is, imo, less entertaining than it once was, and the leftist social engineering one must endure to follow it is intolerable.
I guess I was more optimistic until I realized that NIL is going to be big money instead of a few grand a year
The competition is for people's time. As we go forward, I suspect fewer people will opt to spend entire weekends following football. It will become more of an either or thing.
But with NIL, and with half the power five schools going away, does that erode the size of the College Target market?
I feel like we are entering a period where the products are somewhat in competition.
What is the Marketing
strategy for College Football 2.0?
If these players get all caught up in NIL and cease to be students, and if the alums engage in open bidding wars, I'm afraid we devolve into a farm league. And that will kill the windfall profits and the game itself.
On the other hand, the NFL has alienated many people. The game itself is, imo, less entertaining than it once was, and the leftist social engineering one must endure to follow it is intolerable.
I guess I was more optimistic until I realized that NIL is going to be big money instead of a few grand a year
The competition is for people's time. As we go forward, I suspect fewer people will opt to spend entire weekends following football. It will become more of an either or thing.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:20 am to RiverCityTider
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or an NFL rival
quote:It's been a farm league for a very long time.
I'm afraid we devolve into a farm league.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:24 am to RiverCityTider
Been a farm league. Gonna continue to be a farm league
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:42 am to bbeck
has it not been a farm league for the nfl ever since the nfl began?
will it evolve/devolve into the pro league that many have tried to create? it has a built in fan base. the money is starting to trickle into some players hands. i feel like next will be player representation and league wide unionization. we all know the union is not going to sit idly by with so much money at stake. i guess i'm just curious as to how much of the built in fan base will they lose? am i being to cynical?
will it evolve/devolve into the pro league that many have tried to create? it has a built in fan base. the money is starting to trickle into some players hands. i feel like next will be player representation and league wide unionization. we all know the union is not going to sit idly by with so much money at stake. i guess i'm just curious as to how much of the built in fan base will they lose? am i being to cynical?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:12 am to pvilleguru
A farm league is like AA baseball. What's their TV contract size?
Your so obtuse, as always
They have always been two distinct products.
Your so obtuse, as always
They have always been two distinct products.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:37 am to RiverCityTider
quote:That's just one example.
A farm league is like AA baseball.
quote:Just because CFB is a more popular farm league doesn't make it any less of a farm league.
What's their TV contract size?
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:40 am to RiverCityTider
I dunno, I just like watching football in the fall.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bunch of drama queens on this board. They will watch every Saturday like they always have.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:35 pm to RiverCityTider
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But with NIL, and with half the power five schools going away, does that erode the size of the College Target market?
I feel like we are entering a period where the products are somewhat in competition.
It’s an interesting point. College sports have always had a distinct appeal from pro sports.
None of what you’re discussing erodes people’s connection to their alma mater though or change the atmosphere of a game day on a college campus.
I think the terrible idea of ending the season with 4 neutral site games will have a negative impact. There is very little appeal now for going to a neutral site Alabama game over a Falcons game.
I think if you asked college football fans what the most memorable CFB moments of their lifetime, a lot won’t be able to happen again with the way CFB is trending:
App State-Michigan
Boise State-Oklahoma
Kick Six
I’m less invested and watch less because your connection to the team isn’t what it once was. I think this is more because of the transfers than NIL. I haven’t shut it off though.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:39 pm to 14&Counting
I think it is insulting to the game to call College Football a "farm league".
When I drive by The Gator Bowl on Sunday afternoon and see all those empty blue seats, that, to me, looks like a farm team.
If you feel the pro game is superior in all respects, go hang out on the falcons message board.
I have a different view.
I think the history and richness and pagentry of college football makes it unique and special. And to millions of people it is the superior game.
When I drive by The Gator Bowl on Sunday afternoon and see all those empty blue seats, that, to me, looks like a farm team.
If you feel the pro game is superior in all respects, go hang out on the falcons message board.
I have a different view.
I think the history and richness and pagentry of college football makes it unique and special. And to millions of people it is the superior game.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:48 pm to pvilleguru
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Just because CFB is a more popular farm league doesn't make it any less of a farm league.
A farm league exists to develop talent for a superior league. Since when has the purpose of College Football been to feed talent to the NFL?
You are an insulting dude, and you understand college football about as well as the typical iron worker or cab driver in Pittsburg.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:54 pm to RiverCityTider
College Football had two options heading into the next decade.
Be replaced by an NFL Farm League
or become the NFL Farm League.
Be replaced by an NFL Farm League
or become the NFL Farm League.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:58 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:FBS has been like that for a long time. Just look at how much we use our drafted players to recruit high school players. Every scholarship player on Alabama's roster is there because they thought it was the best place for them to develop and put them in a good position to get drafted. That doesn't mean they aren't trying to win games while in college. That doesn't mean you can't like it more than the NFL.
Since when has the purpose of College Football been to feed talent to the NFL?
quote:Looks like this is the only insult in this thread.
You are an insulting dude, and you understand college football about as well as the typical iron worker or cab driver in Pittsburg.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 1:09 pm to Lordofwrath88
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College Football had two options heading into the next decade.
Be replaced by an NFL Farm League
or become the NFL Farm League.
I don’t think this is true at all. If you had an XFL team in Birmingham with better players and Alabama playing games at the same time, hardly anyone would watch the Birmingham XFL team.
I’m not sure that any of these rule changes make a difference in that like the OP is suggesting though.
I don’t really understand how anyone can disagree with the OP that CFB is a distinct product from minor leagues.
Simone Biles competes at the Olympics and the World Championships. Millions more will watch her at the Olympics because it’s Olympics.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 4:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
i think this is all just a play on words. whether you say "farm" or "feeder" system, the results are the same. college football is most definitely "THE" feeder system for the nfl. yes it has it's own pageantry and ways of celebrating those glorious saturday's in the fall.
personally i hope this dissolves the ncaa and the super conferences happen. but at the same time, i'm hoping it only goes so far. i hope it keeps the pageantry, the glorious days on campus tailgating with a constant barrage of Roll Tides all day long. plus i'm hoping they keep politics out of it. but alas, money always changes everything. so we shall see...
personally i hope this dissolves the ncaa and the super conferences happen. but at the same time, i'm hoping it only goes so far. i hope it keeps the pageantry, the glorious days on campus tailgating with a constant barrage of Roll Tides all day long. plus i'm hoping they keep politics out of it. but alas, money always changes everything. so we shall see...
Posted on 7/24/21 at 5:41 pm to crimsontater
You call it a farm league or feeder system. This implies a minor league of lesser importance and under the control of another.
Why do you use that one attribute to define a sport? You could say, college Football has ...
47,000,000 attendees per year
Over 46k average attendance at many of the largest stadiums in the world (74,000 for the SEC).
163,000,000 unique tv viewers regular season
90 million unique viewers post season
The six College Football Playoff (CFP) games, all telecast on ESPN, produced five of the six most-watched cable presentations of the year.
56 percent of U.S. adults who cited themselves in a Gallup Poll as college football fans, more than professional baseball, basketball, hockey and soccer. Additionally, excluding the combined numbers for Olympic Sports, college football ranks second in core fans behind only the NFL.
I'm not even going to go on with you guys because some of you are toxic
Suffice it to say, college football is the 2nd largest American sport with a 150 year history, that you, supposedly an Alabama supporter, feels the need to deem "minor".
That is the connotation of using the farm league designation.
Why do you use that one attribute to define a sport? You could say, college Football has ...
47,000,000 attendees per year
Over 46k average attendance at many of the largest stadiums in the world (74,000 for the SEC).
163,000,000 unique tv viewers regular season
90 million unique viewers post season
The six College Football Playoff (CFP) games, all telecast on ESPN, produced five of the six most-watched cable presentations of the year.
56 percent of U.S. adults who cited themselves in a Gallup Poll as college football fans, more than professional baseball, basketball, hockey and soccer. Additionally, excluding the combined numbers for Olympic Sports, college football ranks second in core fans behind only the NFL.
I'm not even going to go on with you guys because some of you are toxic
Suffice it to say, college football is the 2nd largest American sport with a 150 year history, that you, supposedly an Alabama supporter, feels the need to deem "minor".
That is the connotation of using the farm league designation.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 5:58 pm to RiverCityTider
i'm not saying it isn't any of those things you listed.
but why are you so hung up a a word or two? when the FACTS are the facts! college football does exactly what the nfl and other pro leagues wants it to do, year in and year out. it trains football players, adds experience, shows who can handle the bright lights and who can't. it's a free country, you are welcome to continue arguing this all you want. but college football is in fact a farm/feeder system to pro football.
but why are you so hung up a a word or two? when the FACTS are the facts! college football does exactly what the nfl and other pro leagues wants it to do, year in and year out. it trains football players, adds experience, shows who can handle the bright lights and who can't. it's a free country, you are welcome to continue arguing this all you want. but college football is in fact a farm/feeder system to pro football.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:28 pm to RiverCityTider
quote:You're the only one that apparently thinks it's below them to support a lower division team.
because some of you are toxic
Posted on 7/24/21 at 6:47 pm to crimsontater
Ok. I give up. Have it you way. College football is a Farm System for the NFL and the Tide and Notre Dame and Oklahoma are farm teams for the various NFL franchises.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:43 pm to RiverCityTider
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College football is a Farm System for the NFL
Well yeah
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