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What we know as Urban Meyer investigation wraps up
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:14 am
What we know as investigation into coach Urban Meyer wraps up (USA Today)
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Ohio State officials have said an independent investigation into football coach Urban Meyer’s handling of domestic abuse allegations against a former assistant coach would be wrapped up Sunday.
Here is what we know as Meyer, on administrative league since Aug. 1, awaits a decision by school president Michael V. Drake:
OSU Board of Trustees receive the report first
No timetable has been released by the university, but the trustees are expected to receive the report early in the week and then they must provide 24 hours public notice of a meeting. After deliberation with the board, Drake will make his announcement. Meyer could be suspended, fired or be reinstated. He is under contract through 2022, and is scheduled to make $7.6 million this season. Based on available information, it seems as if Wednesday would be earliest we could expect an announcement.
The heart of the investigation
This case is about how much Meyer knew, and when he knew about, the 2015 allegations of domestic abuse against former assistant Zach Smith who was fired last month. Meyer hasn’t spoken publicly since being placed on administrative leave, but he issued a statement saying he had followed proper protocol by reporting the allegations against Smith. He did not say to whom he reported the Smith information... (read more)
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:21 am to TidalSurge1
Meyer is and remains a lying POS and should be fired, but O. S. holier-than-thou U. will find a way to retain him. He supposedly fulfilled his obligations by reporting it through proper channels. Nevermind just doing the right thing and firing this nut job.
I am truly amazed at the hypocrisy of OSU and the B1G in general, always pointing fingers at the SEC as a dirty, cheating, anything goes in the name of sports conference while their flagship institutions go through case after case of reprehensible conduct. Ohio State has been dealing with scandal dating back to the Maurice Clarett days, Penn State with decades of child molestation, Michigan State harboring rapists on staff, Maryland with their ongoing issues. People in glass houses...
I am truly amazed at the hypocrisy of OSU and the B1G in general, always pointing fingers at the SEC as a dirty, cheating, anything goes in the name of sports conference while their flagship institutions go through case after case of reprehensible conduct. Ohio State has been dealing with scandal dating back to the Maurice Clarett days, Penn State with decades of child molestation, Michigan State harboring rapists on staff, Maryland with their ongoing issues. People in glass houses...
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:38 am to phil4bama
He gone
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:05 am to TidalSurge1
I'm not a fan of Urban Meyer, but this is ridiculous. He shouldn't have done anything to protect this woman from her husband, and it is a dangerous precedent for this to be expected of someone's boss.
The wife should have gone to the police. There is nothing anyone can do for her if she's unwilling to help herself. If her allegations are true, then firing or disciplining the coach would have just made it worse for her.
The wife should have gone to the police. There is nothing anyone can do for her if she's unwilling to help herself. If her allegations are true, then firing or disciplining the coach would have just made it worse for her.
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:08 am to imjustafatkid
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There is nothing anyone can do for her if she's unwilling to help herself.
Battered-wife syndrome is very real. A lot of drug addicts don’t help themselves either but that doesn’t mean a 3rd party cant/shouldn’t help
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If her allegations are true, then firing or disciplining the coach would have just made it worse for her.
Going out on a huge limb here but it’s almost like that is a common cause of battered wife syndrome
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:12 am to Glorious
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A lot of drug addicts don’t help themselves either but that doesn’t mean a 3rd party cant/shouldn’t help
It is a monumental leap from "can or should" help to "if you don't help you should lose your job." Even if Urban had fired the guy and reported him to the police, nothing can or will change until the person being battered decides to file or pursue charges.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:14 am to imjustafatkid
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It is a monumental leap from "can or should" help to "if you don't help you should lose your job."
And if your contract specifically requires you to do something...
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Even if Urban had fired the guy and reported him to the police, nothing can or will change until the person being battered decides to file or pursue charges.
Once again. We are dealing with a proven physiological disorder in which the victim deeply struggles with confessing to being a victim
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:17 am to Glorious
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Once again. We are dealing with a proven physiological disorder in which the victim deeply struggles with confessing to being a victim
Which, obviously, a football coach can help out with. There is literally nothing Urban Meyer, or anyone's spouse's boss, can do to fix that situation. You're being intentionally obtuse.
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:19 am to imjustafatkid
Urban Meyer can be a reasonable 3rd party and contact the appropriate authorities which is not only the morally right thing to do but what he is contractually obligated to do
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:21 am to Glorious
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Urban Meyer can be a reasonable 3rd party and contact the appropriate authorities which is not only the morally right thing to do but what he is contractually obligated to do
Based on rumors he heard from his wife? That isn't the morally right thing to do at all.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:22 am to TidalSurge1
IMHO, Urban will skate on this since he "supposedly" reported things to his superiors. AD Gene Smith will be the one that will be out of a job at the end of the week. This "supposed" independent investigation committee will point the finger at the local PD as well, saying they covered things up or dropped charges in an order to protect him.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:26 am to imjustafatkid
As coaches, these guys are expected nowadays to release players when they are spouse/girlfriend abusers. The precedent has been set and these people are being held accountable for their actions as they should be from the NFL on down. CNS even released a player a couple of years ago who he gave a second chance after domestic abuse charges were filed and he transgressed again. That is the standard that society has set.
For Urban Meyer to sit there and tell players that if they hit their girlfriend, they will be kicked off the team and out of school is the pinnacle of hypocrisy when he has a serial wife beater on staff. The police investigated this guy 25 TIMES for domestic violence! Not to mention the selfies of his junk in the White House, the $2000 in sex toys he ordered and HAD DELIVERED TO THE ATHLETIC OFFICE, and filming sex with a staffer. This guy was a complete nut job, it's more than crystal clear, yet Urban did nothing to get rid of him. Aside from the criminal abuse, do you really want a loose cannon like this on your staff? There is so much failure here in leadership, it's hard to fathom.
For Urban Meyer to sit there and tell players that if they hit their girlfriend, they will be kicked off the team and out of school is the pinnacle of hypocrisy when he has a serial wife beater on staff. The police investigated this guy 25 TIMES for domestic violence! Not to mention the selfies of his junk in the White House, the $2000 in sex toys he ordered and HAD DELIVERED TO THE ATHLETIC OFFICE, and filming sex with a staffer. This guy was a complete nut job, it's more than crystal clear, yet Urban did nothing to get rid of him. Aside from the criminal abuse, do you really want a loose cannon like this on your staff? There is so much failure here in leadership, it's hard to fathom.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:30 am to phil4bama
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The police investigated this guy 25 TIMES for domestic violence!
If he wasn't charged with a crime, then this isn't comparable to kicking off players for domestic violence. I absolutely don't support removing people simply for allegations.
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Not to mention the selfies of his junk in the White House, the $2000 in sex toys he ordered and HAD DELIVERED TO THE ATHLETIC OFFICE, and filming sex with a staffer.
Are you saying Urban Meyer knew about these things? I haven't seen that stated anywhere.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:31 am to Glorious
The Smith's domestic abuse situation is a matter between them and the police. Apparently OSU has policies and perhaps employment contract conduct standards stipulations that resulted in Smith being fired. Similarly, Myer being fired or not is a matter of whether Meyer violated any OSU policies or his employment contract conduct standards to the extent that OSU must fire him. If Meyer did follow OSU protocol and report what he knew to the apprpriate OSU higher up(s) back in 2015, that raises questions about why Smith was not terminated by OSU prior to the media making the situation known publically.
ETA: And if Meyer knew about the Smith's domestic abuse problems back in 2009 while at UF, why isn't the media going after him and UF about an apparent coverup there like they are about an apparent coverup while at OSU?
ETA: And if Meyer knew about the Smith's domestic abuse problems back in 2009 while at UF, why isn't the media going after him and UF about an apparent coverup there like they are about an apparent coverup while at OSU?
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:31 am to phil4bama
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I am truly amazed at the hypocrisy of OSU and the B1G in general, always pointing fingers at the SEC as a dirty, cheating, anything goes in the name of sports conference while their flagship institutions go through case after case of reprehensible conduct.
i mean he beat her, while pregnant, at a sec school... with 0 repercussions.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:31 am to imjustafatkid
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Based on rumors he heard from his wife? That isn't the morally right thing to do at all.
His wife heard firsthand from the woman. That’s a little more than “hearing rumors.”
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:34 am to TidalSurge1
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The Smith's domestic abuse situation is a matter between them and the police. Apparently OSU has policies and perhaps employment contract conduct standards stipulations that resulted in Smith being fired. Similarly, Myer being fired or not is a matter of whether Meyer violated any OSU policies or his employment contract conduct standards to the extent that OSU must fire him. If Meyer did follow OSU protocol and report what he knew to the apprpriate OSU higher up(s) back in 2015, that raises questions about why Smith was not terminated by OSU prior to the media making the situation known publically.
I can agree with this. He may have had a contractual obligation to report rumors, but to claim he has a moral obligation to report things he can't prove is just complete nonsense. No one has any such moral obligation. If you have actionable evidence that can be proven, then yes you have a moral obligation, but otherwise you're just spreading rumors.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:38 am to FairhopeTider
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His wife heard firsthand from the woman. That’s a little more than “hearing rumors.”
No it isn't. In this case, his wife has a moral obligation to go to the police. Urban Meyer can't prove his wife heard anything, and him saying someone told him someone else told them something isn't evidence. It's a rumor!
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:44 am to imjustafatkid
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Urban Meyer can't prove his wife heard anything
We have actual screenshots of texts between her and the victim.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:55 am to FairhopeTider
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We have actual screenshots of texts between her and the victim.
That's nice. What you don't have is proof that his wife ever even showed those to him, but that doesn't really matter. His wife should have reported those texts to the police.
I don't have a responsibility to report things texted to my wife. Neither do you, and neither does Urban Meyer just because he's a football coach.
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