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re: What is Grubb missing as a play caller?

Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3985 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:00 pm to
i'm no x's & o's guy at all. but to me theres no rhythm to his offense. its like he flips a coin for the next play. or maybe, its like he never see's the defense only his offense and what he loves to do. idk, i just know ive seen better.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
9812 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:19 pm to
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When I watch him call a game, it doesn't really feel like he has a plan. I see no real cohesiveness in his playcalling.


You are exactly right!!
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11869 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:34 pm to
I believe this extends to the integration of the run and pass.

Great offenses marry their runs to their pass concepts. I don't feel that way with our offense.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5186 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 7:55 pm to
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This is my biggest complaint with Grubb. When I watch him call a game, it doesn't really feel like he has a plan. I see no real cohesiveness in his playcalling.


Well, as to what he’s missing as a playcaller, I’ll just post a few quotes from Mike Macdonald all from right after when he fired Grubb. I think it all will make total sense and explain a lot.

"We don't want to reinvent our offense every week so we have to have a core identity. We're going to be a physical unit. We're going to run the football and we want to have answers for the QB and keep it consistent for him".

“don't randomly call plays, understand playcalling”

"We need to be really good at core concepts, fundamentals… We have to have core identity, not randomly choose what looks interesting on the call sheet.”

“We want our offense to be a physical unit and dictate terms of the defense, play complementary football and get the ball to our playmakers frequently and in space, and let our quarterback play fast. So we just decided to go in a different direction.”

… the Seahawks are ranked 8th in total offense up from 18th under Grubb. They are 10th in rushing this year, up from 29th.







Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
2264 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:00 pm to
Grubb is just not a good OC for the Alabama standard. He is too soft, cute, lacks fundamentals, and is bi-polar in play-calls.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 8:04 pm
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2736 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 8:45 pm to
A brain and guts to take a shot
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4366 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 9:16 pm to
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the Seahawks are ranked 8th in total offense up from 18th under Grubb. They are 10th in rushing this year, up from 29th.



I'm not defending Grubb but I think you're vastly underestimating the havoc having Geno Smith as QB causes an offense. It just got Pete Carroll fired.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5186 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 10:02 pm to
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underestimating the havoc having Geno Smith as QB


Geno threw for 4,320 yards and had a 70% completion percentage in 2024. Interceptions were high. Basically boiled down to be a top 5 QB in the league that year.

Any other season if agree, but Geno was great in ‘24

Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8709 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:22 am to
Grubb does not want to be at Bama.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20711 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:01 am to
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and doing nothing to force the defense to run side to side early in games to soften them up for runs between the tackles and deep shots later. Kiffin and Sark did that masterfully.
That presupposes you can block the edge and keep the backside gap from getting just waltzed though.

We couldn’t reliably do both on the same play.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
3985 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:17 am to
so i had another thought pop n my lil brain. i fully admit to being a conspiracy theorist.
what if grubb really isnt as bad as myself and others think? what if he and ckd understood that a house cleaning needed to take place on the offensive side? what if they walked a fine line of wins vs low production and ugly offensive output vs making the cfp and even getting a win. but ending on a note that leaves no doubt what needs to happen. had ckd stepped onto campus and immediately started clearing house of the so-called highly touted players cns had left, there wouldve been a mutiny of major proportions.
yes i know, TL/DR, lol
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20325 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:48 am to
There is a combination of things IMO:

Grubb doesn’t quite have the players to execute his offense. This causes weird play calling because we don’t do what the play was designed to do or he doesn’t think we can do it with personnel.

Grubb needs to be more willing to conform to what we have instead of what he wished we had.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13369 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:06 am to
Everyone is saying a run game but he had it in Seattle and didnt use it.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:52 am to
Can't be stated any clearer. Of course that isn't enough for the Grubb Crowd.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20711 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:20 am to
There are times to just put the phone down. This is one of them.

They were doing the best they could, hampered by the lack of correct personnel to do it.

Their failure as I see it was trying to make our personnel fit what they wanted to do in the hopes they could successfully learn it or execute it.

They couldn’t on a consistent basis.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5056 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:12 pm to
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Grubb needs to be more willing to conform to what we have instead of what he wished we had.


Serious devil's advocate question: Are today's coaches, especially offense, that versatile and able to adapt who they are and what they do to the personnel they find?

I mean, look at Coach Bryant's career. He was the strong leader that people here seem to have a hard-on for, but as far as the X's and O's on the field, he was a chameleon who could change and adapt. He ran the Wishbone probably for the longest time, but go backward and he won with multiple offensive styles and both running and passing.

It strikes me today that coaches are who they are and do what they do, and if you choose to hire them then you understand that you let them do what it is they do or at least give them the time to get the right puzzle pieces in place to do what they do.

The problem is the unique impatience of this particular fan base. And yes I know others don't have clean hands there, but I think we're unique.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
958 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:12 pm to
KD/Grubb have an issue that Saban and CoachBryant never had to deal with in depth and certainly not in their 1st two years in T-town.

With the flaming portal and the 30%+ turnover across all leagues and massive $ on top of that, you no longer have the true ability to build a player for 3 years to be what you need him to be. If you adapt your play style too much to the players you have today, they may or may not still be there tomorrow.

In building consistency of play, most to the kids need acouple of years to grasp and be able to apply the rules without thinking. OL often take longer.
If you alter the system every year to the players on hand, it is very hard for the short cycle teams of today to stack learning year to year and become proficent.

My guess is you will have to fill short timer execution holes with portal guys that already have enough proven capability and are better able to asseimilate new systemic rules more quickly.

You have to identify young protential and fight to hold onto it long enough for them to begin to excell. The better they get the more expensive they become to hold onto or with more time in house you have to hope the kids build bonds to keep them together fighting for the guy standing next to them. Rental player rarely have the time to build those bonds unless you were able to purchase them early enough to experience time in the pot with their buddies.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
958 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 5:15 pm to
Case in point, how much better and more diverse the defense was year 2 vs year 1 under KW.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23429 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:50 pm to
Intelligence
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5056 posts
Posted on 1/8/26 at 1:00 pm to
Solid take
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