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re: We're Not As Bad As We Think (SC rewatch)

Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17898 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

This is true. We aren’t a 10-12 play drive team and it pisses me off. I like to break their will.


We had 3 drives of +9 plays against South Carolina.

Hard to break their will on offense when our defense gives up 4 drives of +9 plays and the fourth game in a row with at least one drive of 16 or more plays

We literally play offense to keep up
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17898 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

The defense is a bit inconsistent, but they're not as bad as everyone thinks.


TideSaint should ban anyone who says this stupid shite just because they don't like the QB for whatever reason and need to blame him for everything.

Our defense has given up 16 play drives in 4 straight games and teams have a 60-70% chance of getting a first down if they reach 3rd or 4th down the last 4 games.

Yeah this definitely ain't a big problem
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:35 pm to
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Must not have been a fan of the '92 BAMA team

Bit of difference to talking smack the way they used to do vs the shite we've been doing on the field this year. Stallings likely sits Moore for the year for his shenanigans vs Vandy, bur more likely neutralizes the issue before its an issue. Sit and be pissed. Don't kick the ball and defy your coaches on national TV

We look and act closer to that Miami team right now than a Bama TEAM
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:37 pm to
Stallings … one of the finest men to ever draw breath BTW … didn’t have to deal with players making a jillion dollars and with the ability to freely go somewhere else if they don’t like the way you treat them.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Bit of difference to talking smack the way they used to do vs the shite we've been doing on the field this year.


Lassic used to fake heart attacks after TDs.

George Teague high stepped 20 yards on an Pick6.

How soon we forget. And to be clear, I don't mind the celebrations. I think mimicking gun fire is a touch much, but I haven't seen a BAMA guy do that.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 4:50 pm to
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Our defense has given up 16 play drives


Lots of teams give up long drives.
Milroe is scoring points for the other team and turning it over as many times as he scores.
The offense scored on 9/19 possessions on teams people swear are garbage.
Haynes runs scared.
Ouzts can't block for shite.
KLAW and Prentice can't get a sniff from Milroe when they're on the field.
Milroe can't adjust the line or audible.
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
174 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 6:48 pm to
South Carolina outplayed us the whole game. Their qb had a great game, except the late fumble that gave us the win. He ate our lunch the whole game both running and passing. The almost nine minute drive resulting in a td to start the second half was a work of art. At that point our chances were slim to none. We did win similar to three or so games last year.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27847 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:45 am to
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First of all, let's understand that we're having a lot of bad luck recently related to untimely penalties and bad bounces.

For example, I can't remember the last time I saw a successful onside kick.


Many of us remember Tennessee 2009.

As far as clock management, some may think this is a radical idea, but it really isn't. Scoring the last touchdown almost cost us the game. You don't expect college kids to know that. But the coaching staff? Absolutely they should know. In that situation...3rd down with 2:00 left and SC with no timeouts remaining, during the timeout you have to be emphasizing to your offensive guys to get the first down, then get on the ground and stay in bounds. If they do that, we take a knee 3 times and run out the clock. 40 second play clock x 3 plays. Coaches have to be aware. It very nearly cost us the game.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26444 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

The defense, in hindsight, actually played pretty well


They did fine but let’s be real - South Carolina’s offense is not good and they have a one dimensional QB.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Lassic used to fake heart attacks after TDs.

George Teague high stepped 20 yards on an Pick6

100% different than what we are seeing.

Main point was Moore, who'd Stallings would have drug off the field by an ear hole.

Also, celebrating quickly with the team or high stepping into the end zone is a big leap behind of a choreographed little dance with friends when down to Vandy or struggling with USC e. Just move on and handle your business

Some of your apples are oranges my friend
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

100% different than what we are seeing.


No it's not. 92 BAMA celebrated just about every TD by dancing, or a group celebration.
Sherman Williams shake.
Lassic did a fricking cartwheel once.
More than once did they choreograph the heart attack celebration.
Get the frick outta here.

And it wasn't just 92 and it wasn't just BAMA.

Now... did they celebrate every 1st down or tackle for loss? No. Every sack? Pretty much. Watch the 92 SECCG for fricks sake.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 4:05 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
18555 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

have a one dimensional QB.


Minus the absolute dime he threw for a TD that put the game in jeopardy for us.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

No it's not

How much celebration when down to a Vandy or this USC team. And, again, you are ignoring or glossing over the Malachi Moore issues. Which were the main point. And it is most indicative of a culture issue
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20297 posts
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

did they celebrate
every possible positive play losing to Vandy or a horrible USC team, no. And, you know that. Did they run their mouths at fans. Did they kick the ball and refuse to come out when a coach was yelling at them?

I get the sentiment, but it's very different.

Teague literally said he ran down Lamar Thomas and took the ball just so he wouldn't have to go back to the sideline with Coach Stallings knowing he was out of position
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3170 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:25 pm to
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My point is that DeBoer is kinda like Sark and Kiffin. He needs a QB. His entire MO as a coach is based around the QB.
Milroe is the last guy he would've ever recruited at QB, and doesn't fit his system at all.


And yet Sark recruited him to play QB at Bama.....
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:08 pm to
But DeBoer ain’t Sark.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7496 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

But DeBoer ain’t Sark.


Deboer >> Sark

if we are actually going by on field records and not the teenage girl exaggerations by the tantrum crew
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
4954 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

But DeBoer ain’t Sark. 


Exactly right.

Deboer is 2-0 vs Sark. Deboer had more success in two years at Washington than Sark had in 5. In fact, Sark never had a 10 win season while Deboer had two.

How did Sark do in his first season at Texas after inheriting a roster that consisted of three top 3 recruiting classes again? I'll give you a hint: Deboer will surpass his year one win total Saturday...
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 7:04 pm
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
174 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:11 pm to
This is a well written comment. The writing style is outstanding. I do not agree with it entirely, but some good points were made. The biggest difference I noticed in the game was South Carolina was more physical than we were.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8990 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:33 pm to
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Milroe is HORRIBLE at throwing screens. Look at this bullshite. A ten yard play becomes a 3 yard play



This bubble is a great example but arguably his worst bad screen throw was on a jailbreak screen to Williams. It was the perfect call. We were running it right into their blitz. If Williams catches that in stride then we're talking about at a minimum a 20 yard gain but possibly a touchdown. Williams had a lot of blockers in front of him, the defense didn't have numbers due to the blitzers coming from the area of the throw, and we know how Williams had preternatural ability to work around the field.

Milroe has got to get better at executing these throws. The way teams defend offenses like this where the QB has a good deep ball arm and wheels is going to leave these bubbles open for cheap yards that move the chains. Notable because moving the chains consistently when the big plays aren't happening is the weakness of this offense.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 7:36 pm
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