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Well, it's never too early to talk about the depth chart
Posted on 1/3/15 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 1/3/15 at 10:16 pm
Obviously very subject to change, but I'll give it a shot as of now (how I see it week 1)
QB: Coker- Bateman- Cornwell
RB: Henry- *Drake- Jones- Tenpenny- *Scarbrough
FB/H: Clarke- Flournoy Smith
WR: Sims- Foster- Falkins
WR: *Stewart- Ridley- Kief
WR: Black- Stewart- Charlot
TE: Howard- Greene- TFS- Faciane
LT: Robinson- Jackson
LG: Bozeman- Pierschbacher
C: Kelley- Hassenauer
RG: Taylor- Casher
RT: Hill- Cotton
DE: Pettway- Hand
DT: Robinson- Liner
DT: Reed- Frazier- Lake
DE: Allen- Tomlinson
OLB: Devall- Evans- Miller
ILB: Ragland- Foster- Lee
ILB: SDH- Foster- Lee
OLB: Anderson- Williams
CB: Jones- Jackson- Smith
CB: Brown- Sylve- Humphrey
FS: G. Smith- Washington- Thompson
SS: Jones- Harrison- Cook
* denotes a "hybrid" guy that may be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart but he'll play in different spots situationally. Drake, Stewart, Scarbrough, TFS are hybrid guys that will learn more than one spot.
Defensively the thing that sticks out to me is lack of experience at safety, and the potential depth issue at ILB. Eddie Jackson and Geno Smith would be my starters at safety, but we'll see if Jackson makes the switch. We are much deeper at corner with some guys that have played a lot of ball. As physical as Jackson is, he may be better served at safety anyway. I think that "experiment" is going to depend on the progression of Brown, Humphrey, and Smith. Smith would be another candidate to make the switch. I feel pretty certain that a corner on campus will be at safety in the spring. Help is on the way but Thompson, SBB, Anderson, Harrison will all be true freshmen (wouldn't be surprised to see Harrison get PT being an EE)
I think QB, OL, and the secondary are going to be the battles to watch this offseason. We're talented in every spot, but we know the most talented guy doesn't always play. I'm curious to see how it plays out, we will make every attempt to get the best players on the field, and I think that will require some shuffling. Your thoughts?
This isn't my version of how I want the depth chart to look as much as it is how I predict it will look, particularly in the secondary and at LB
QB: Coker- Bateman- Cornwell
RB: Henry- *Drake- Jones- Tenpenny- *Scarbrough
FB/H: Clarke- Flournoy Smith
WR: Sims- Foster- Falkins
WR: *Stewart- Ridley- Kief
WR: Black- Stewart- Charlot
TE: Howard- Greene- TFS- Faciane
LT: Robinson- Jackson
LG: Bozeman- Pierschbacher
C: Kelley- Hassenauer
RG: Taylor- Casher
RT: Hill- Cotton
DE: Pettway- Hand
DT: Robinson- Liner
DT: Reed- Frazier- Lake
DE: Allen- Tomlinson
OLB: Devall- Evans- Miller
ILB: Ragland- Foster- Lee
ILB: SDH- Foster- Lee
OLB: Anderson- Williams
CB: Jones- Jackson- Smith
CB: Brown- Sylve- Humphrey
FS: G. Smith- Washington- Thompson
SS: Jones- Harrison- Cook
* denotes a "hybrid" guy that may be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart but he'll play in different spots situationally. Drake, Stewart, Scarbrough, TFS are hybrid guys that will learn more than one spot.
Defensively the thing that sticks out to me is lack of experience at safety, and the potential depth issue at ILB. Eddie Jackson and Geno Smith would be my starters at safety, but we'll see if Jackson makes the switch. We are much deeper at corner with some guys that have played a lot of ball. As physical as Jackson is, he may be better served at safety anyway. I think that "experiment" is going to depend on the progression of Brown, Humphrey, and Smith. Smith would be another candidate to make the switch. I feel pretty certain that a corner on campus will be at safety in the spring. Help is on the way but Thompson, SBB, Anderson, Harrison will all be true freshmen (wouldn't be surprised to see Harrison get PT being an EE)
I think QB, OL, and the secondary are going to be the battles to watch this offseason. We're talented in every spot, but we know the most talented guy doesn't always play. I'm curious to see how it plays out, we will make every attempt to get the best players on the field, and I think that will require some shuffling. Your thoughts?
This isn't my version of how I want the depth chart to look as much as it is how I predict it will look, particularly in the secondary and at LB
This post was edited on 1/3/15 at 10:19 pm
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 10:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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QB: Coker- Bateman- Cornwell
Agreed.
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RB: Henry- *Drake- Jones- Tenpenny- *Scarbrough
I think Scarbrough ends up over Tenpenny, but I agree other than that.
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FB/H: Clarke- Flournoy Smith
Clark*, but yeah I agree if the Clark to FB rumor is true.
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TE: Howard- Greene- TFS- Faciane
Look out for Hale Hentges to make some noise. Idk where he'll be on the depth chart, but he's good.
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LT: Robinson- Jackson
Dom Jackson isn't a LT. He's a RG or RT, imo.
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LG: Bozeman- Pierschbacher
I don't know how it WILL end up, but I like Casher at LG. He doesn't fit as well at RG (though he could play it, obviously) as he's a smaller, athletic guy rather than a powerful guy. Put him at LG for pass pro and pull him. Grant Hill and Alphonse Taylor are also options here.
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C: Kelley- Hassenauer
Kelly*, and agree.
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RG: Taylor- Casher
I think this could be Taylor, but Dom Jackson fits best at RG. Not sure I like his pass pro at RT. Grant Hill also an option here. As is Lester Cotton.
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RT: Hill- Cotton
Agreed.
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DE: Pettway- Hand
DT: Robinson- Liner
DT: Reed- Frazier- Lake
DE: Allen- Tomlinson
Agree with all of this.
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OLB: Devall- Evans- Miller
ILB: Ragland- Foster- Lee
ILB: SDH- Foster- Lee
OLB: Anderson- Williams
Technically Evans is a Jack and Miller is a Sam, though both could easily play either. I think it'll end up being Devall/Anderson as the OLBs, but I think Evans needs to start. We need his athleticism on the field as much as possible.
At ILB, I think Ragland/Foster will be the guys, and then SDH or Adonis Thomas could come in on third down.
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CB: Jones- Jackson- Smith
CB: Brown- Sylve- Humphrey
FS: G. Smith- Washington- Thompson
SS: Jones- Harrison- Cook
Agreed, for the most part. I think it looks like that, though we have options.
I like Jackson at Star in that lineup. I wouldn't mind seeing Jackson at Safety and Marlon Humphrey at Star. The other Safety could be Geno, and Hootie could be the Money.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:14 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Serious post is serious but Eddie might be fixin to be the best corner we have had under Saban. Just got that feeling.
He has a better body, and a more killer instinct than any other. He is as or more athletic that any of them. But the Big difference he has that none of the others have had is the competition behind him push. Say what you want about him this year but he was injured and then worried about re-injury. If and a big IF, he can get over that look the frick out.
He has a better body, and a more killer instinct than any other. He is as or more athletic that any of them. But the Big difference he has that none of the others have had is the competition behind him push. Say what you want about him this year but he was injured and then worried about re-injury. If and a big IF, he can get over that look the frick out.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:27 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
And on another note, so many Bama fans keep up with recruiting that they know more of the newer names than some of the names that they have forgotten about. Boundary corners get less safety help do the the natural shade of the safety. So by default the boundary corner is more likely to be the better of the 2.
Who is to say that Eddie does not displace Cyrus at boundary, move Cyrus over the field and then Cyrus down to star and Tony to field when needed? The 3 best corners are not leaving. Any combination without those 3 is a more of hope on recruiting stars rather than what we have seen.
We are red-shirting 5 stars on the reg. TB has the intangibles to be a freak, plus he has the all important early pt. But Cyrus and Eddie wont be passed the hard way.
Somebody gonna have to play safety though
ETA without actually editing: Is safety the problem with this D? Or one of the main problems?
Who is to say that Eddie does not displace Cyrus at boundary, move Cyrus over the field and then Cyrus down to star and Tony to field when needed? The 3 best corners are not leaving. Any combination without those 3 is a more of hope on recruiting stars rather than what we have seen.
We are red-shirting 5 stars on the reg. TB has the intangibles to be a freak, plus he has the all important early pt. But Cyrus and Eddie wont be passed the hard way.
Somebody gonna have to play safety though
ETA without actually editing: Is safety the problem with this D? Or one of the main problems?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:23 am to tt54l32v
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He is as or more athletic that any of them
Let me stop you right here. We have 3 Olympic level athletes at corner. Jackson isn't one of them. I'm not writing Eddie off, just as I didn't wrote Cyrus off last year. Tony Brown is a Milliner level athlete though. Good size and blazing speed. Jackson is a great tackler and a great leaper but he is not a burner. Cyrus is our best corner at the moment and it's not really close. If anyone was in need of safety help this year it was jackson, it was pretty rare that a guy got behind cyrus this year, I wouldn't expect him to go anywhere. I just think with the talent we've got at corner coming back, it may not be a bad idea to look at them as a group and ask which one is the best fit at safety, a postition that we need depth. Not only do I think Jackson is that guy by a wide margin, I think that will allow a better athlete to step in at corner, under the condition they know what they're doing. I think getting the best 11 on the field next year includes Eddie Jackson, I just don't think its at corner.
I know just switching positions isn't the easiest thing to ask, but I won't be shocked at all if he gets a look at safety this spring. When the staff sits down and ranks the players 1-85 they're going to realize they need to find a way to get Brown and Humphrey on the field in some capacity. Shouldn't be overlooked that they took a lot of scout team reps against Amari Cooper either. Those two may be the best athletes on the team, it's going to be hard to keep them on the bench.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:26 am to Riseupfromtherubble
In terms of athleticism:
Brown > Humphrey > Sheffield > Fitzpatrick > Jones > Jackson
Brown > Humphrey > Sheffield > Fitzpatrick > Jones > Jackson
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:43 am to alabamabuckeye
Which speaks to the freakishness of our young guys, though I think Jones probably has the best hips and quickness in the group, so while he isn't the most athletic of the bunch he probably does have the best attributes for the position, size not withstanding.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 8:20 am to Riseupfromtherubble
It's great to have athletes, but we need high football iq and coaching that knows what the hell it's doing.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 8:39 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I would like to see Eddie at safety where we need more bodies. A true freshman may come in and be our most talented safety.
At QB I feel like we are in great shape. I have no idea who wins the job but the competition will be great and ensure that we have a winner there.
At RB I look for Drake to assert himself as the dominant guy here and Jones to earn the backup role. My hope for Henry is for him to learn to run like the 240 llb monster that he is. Do not be so soft Derrick.
OL should be leaps and bounds better. More depth than any previous Saban squad. I feel like Cam might be the best lineman in the country.
The DL is stacked. Enough said.
LB worries me against the spread teams but will shine against the razorbacks and LSU's of the world.
We know we have the best punter in the nation and a capable kicker. I want to see Drake return kicks this year and continue to play our five stars on the return team.
At QB I feel like we are in great shape. I have no idea who wins the job but the competition will be great and ensure that we have a winner there.
At RB I look for Drake to assert himself as the dominant guy here and Jones to earn the backup role. My hope for Henry is for him to learn to run like the 240 llb monster that he is. Do not be so soft Derrick.
OL should be leaps and bounds better. More depth than any previous Saban squad. I feel like Cam might be the best lineman in the country.
The DL is stacked. Enough said.
LB worries me against the spread teams but will shine against the razorbacks and LSU's of the world.
We know we have the best punter in the nation and a capable kicker. I want to see Drake return kicks this year and continue to play our five stars on the return team.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:26 am to CrimsonChin
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I want to see Drake return kicks this year and continue to play our five stars on the return team.
This and maybe Marlon returning also
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:54 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Need more bodies at the ILB position as well as safety. Having that kind of depth is key for a championship season. Adding some extra Offensive and defensive linemen as well as corners never hurts either. Deeper we are the better.
With that being said, are we bringing in any ILBs, Safety's, Olinemen/D linemen in our 2015 class? Haven't been keeping up with recruiting at all
With that being said, are we bringing in any ILBs, Safety's, Olinemen/D linemen in our 2015 class? Haven't been keeping up with recruiting at all
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:23 am to The Silverback
We have some real studs on each line committed but even without them I would stack our depth there against any team.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:08 am to CrimsonChin
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My hope for Henry is for him to learn to run like the 240 llb monster that he is. Do not be so soft Derrick.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is why you can't trust what anyone did in high school. Henry is a terrific back, but he ought to be Barry Sanders if his high school numbers are to be believed.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:26 am to CrimsonChin
This time last year it was Eddie and who ever is going to pass Cyrus. You all are thinking about the Eddie that fell down and gave up a touchdown the other night. Not the freshman Eddie that did so well.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:28 am to CrimsonChin
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My hope for Henry is for him to learn to run like the 240 llb monster that he is. Do not be so soft Derrick.
Did you not watch the last three games of the season? Dude ran like a horse. We didnt feed him enough.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:26 pm to Funky Tide 8
I like the guy and he has insane moves for a kid his size. The fact is he trys to always get outside and use moves to gain yards. He is not near effective at running between the tackles or picking up a tough 3 yards on third down. I never said he wasn't good. It is just that if we want to run the toss or get to the edge, we have better options than Henry. He runs like a scatback stuck in a powerbacks body.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:29 pm to tt54l32v
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Serious post is serious but Eddie might be fixin to be the best corner we have had under Saban. Just got that feeling.
He has a better body, and a more killer instinct than any other. He is as or more athletic that any of them. But the Big difference he has that none of the others have had is the competition behind him push. Say what you want about him this year but he was injured and then worried about re-injury. If and a big IF, he can get over that look the frick out.
I don't disagree, but if we're trying to get CJ/TB/EJ all on the field, someone has to move, and I like TB and his long speed + size combo on the outside a little more than EJ.
I don't doubt that EJ would be very good if he stays at CB. I've been on his bandwagon since the Ole Miss game in 2013.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:31 pm to tt54l32v
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ETA without actually editing: Is safety the problem with this D? Or one of the main problems?
For 2015? Safety is the only big hole. We still need a coverage ILB, but that is it. Get solid Safety play and an ILB that can cover at an above average level and we get back to locking people down.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:33 pm to alabamabuckeye
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Brown > Humphrey > Sheffield > Fitzpatrick > Jones > Jackson
I think I'd switch Fitz and Jones, but other than that I think I agree. Brown and Hump may be interchangeable, unless size is also a factor in your ranking, in which case yeah Brown will be like 205-210 next year and one of the fastest players on the field no matter who we play, if not the fastest.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:37 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Did you not watch the last three games of the season? Dude ran like a horse. We didnt feed him enough.
I don't disagree, but I think his problem is vision between the tackles and power.
Getting him the ball in space works because DBs don't wanna tackle him and he can outrun some of them, but at some point we need our 240lb back to be able to break off runs up the middle. He did against Oklahoma, so there is hope.
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