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re: UA Basketball (16-15, 8-10)
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:43 am to McGregor
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:43 am to McGregor
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He blamed Herb for getting hurt. "If he was late, he wouldn't have gotten injured!".
Even if true, pipe down old man (and I love the guy!)
Yeah. Pretty sure he thought Herb was the one that was trying to take the charge (it was Beetle I think). Herb went up to block the shot.
Half the time he doesn't know what's happening.
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:32 am to Teague
Wimp is just an angry old man yelling at the sky.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:24 pm to The Tom Arnold
"Ball handing is terrible and seems like the their primary focus on layups and put backs is just get the ball in the vicinity of the basket"
One of the issues I have with the new coaching trends in basketball is this layup or 3's only mentality. We had several forced layups or turnovers in the paint because we drove the ball into trouble instead of pulling up for a 10 footer in the paint. Now, there's no guarantee that we make the 10 footers, but I'm still of the belief that the mid-range game still has a place in this style of basketball.
One of the issues I have with the new coaching trends in basketball is this layup or 3's only mentality. We had several forced layups or turnovers in the paint because we drove the ball into trouble instead of pulling up for a 10 footer in the paint. Now, there's no guarantee that we make the 10 footers, but I'm still of the belief that the mid-range game still has a place in this style of basketball.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:26 pm to TiderNAL
Heard Wimp this morning. He said he thought Ala would have won the game if Herb had not gotten hurt.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:32 pm to ArabianKnight
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Now, there's no guarantee that we make the 10 footers, but I'm still of the belief that the mid-range game still has a place in this style of basketball.
It doesn't really unless the player shoots them at an elite level. Its a wasted possession otherwise.
One of the biggest issues with mid range shots is that they aren't easier to rebound/lead to more offensive rebounds than a 3pt shot, but they are worth significantly less per possession.
Just using NBA numbers, 3 point shots were worth 1.11 Points per posession, midrange 2's were worth .79 Points per posession. We have a shorter 3 point line which further separates this.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:36 pm to reachup
" How close was the goal tending call?"
It was close, and this won't be a popular opinion, but I thought they got the call right. The rule states that if any part of the ball is over the cylinder when touched, its goal tending. There was at least 30% of the ball still over the cylinder. It was going away from the bucket, but per the rule, they got it right.
It was close, and this won't be a popular opinion, but I thought they got the call right. The rule states that if any part of the ball is over the cylinder when touched, its goal tending. There was at least 30% of the ball still over the cylinder. It was going away from the bucket, but per the rule, they got it right.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:38 pm to ArabianKnight
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It was going away from the bucket, but per the rule, they got it right.
I think the frustration comes down to the fact that you never see that call in live action anymore. The replay got it right by the rule, but I think it was atrocious for the ref to call it in the first place.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:45 pm to Tider95
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I think the frustration comes down to the fact that you never see that call in live action anymore. The replay got it right by the rule, but I think it was atrocious for the ref to call it in the first place.
Yep. Refs never call offensive goaltending on putbacks anymore. If you don't block out your man and he makes a putback dunk we aren't bailing you out is basically an unwritten rule at this point. Unless it's just egregious. Like where 80% of the ball is over the cylinder or something and probably would have gone in even if no one had touched it.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 2:56 pm to Tider95
I disagree completely. A wasted possession is driving into a lane and trying to get to the hole when there are 4 people in the way. I would much rather get a 10 foot shot than a turnover.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:01 pm to ArabianKnight
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I would much rather get a 10 foot shot than a turnover.
The 10 foot shot is basically a turnover.
If there are really 4 people in the way you need to kick it out to a wide open 3 point shooter.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:21 pm to Tider95
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The 10 foot shot is basically a turnover
wut?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:41 pm to McGregor
You are taking an incredibly inefficient shot over either taking it to the rack or passing back out to someone at the 3pt line.
Obviously a turnover is the worst outcome, but taking a very bad shot from the 10ft to just inside the 3pt line range is the second worse outcome (unless the player is an above average midrange shooter).
Mid range only has a place if you are wide open and you can convert those wide open attempts at 40% as a bare minimum. That would equate to .8 Points per Posession and while not ideal, at least doesn't put you in a hole.
Obviously a turnover is the worst outcome, but taking a very bad shot from the 10ft to just inside the 3pt line range is the second worse outcome (unless the player is an above average midrange shooter).
Mid range only has a place if you are wide open and you can convert those wide open attempts at 40% as a bare minimum. That would equate to .8 Points per Posession and while not ideal, at least doesn't put you in a hole.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:57 pm to Tider95
Don't think Wimp is a homer at all. He is constantly speaking from the opponents angle and is very sparing in Alabama's praise. Every contested call should have gone to Penn according to him. Praised Brodeur to sky but wasn't effusive about Kira.
Heck I was shocked Kira had 30 points at the end; Eli and Wimp hardly even emphasized that,
Don't like homerish broadcast teams at all,like Awbarns, but jeez give us some credit.
Heck I was shocked Kira had 30 points at the end; Eli and Wimp hardly even emphasized that,
Don't like homerish broadcast teams at all,like Awbarns, but jeez give us some credit.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:04 pm to My2Bits
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Don't like homerish broadcast teams at all,like Awbarns, but jeez give us some credit.
I agree with everything you pointed out and yet I would say it feels worse than awbarns broadcast still. In my mind even if you don't praise Bama with every breathe like the Barn announcers tend to do, you can still be a homer in your actions and choices.
Wimp has never seen a moment in a game that he can't either ignore to talk about something that matters only to him or that he will angrily yell at clouds about. Him being allowed to be part of a broadcast is honestly probably the more homerish part... now that I really think about it
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:24 pm to Tider95
I must admit for most of the broadcast I thought it was supposed to be an Alabama Learfield team,forgot it was SEC Network. Eli and Wimp confused me.
Wimp could have been good at this if he had started 20 years ago,it's too late in the day for him to be learning a new trade.
Wimp could have been good at this if he had started 20 years ago,it's too late in the day for him to be learning a new trade.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:30 pm to My2Bits
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Positive news on Herbert Jones @_hoopinglife MRI is that elbow is only hyperextended and not worse per @nate_oats tonight. And that means, of course, that Herb is a “game-time decision” for Monday against Florida Atlantic. @AlabamaMBB
Good news per Cecil
Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:33 pm to mistaken4193
Great news
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:59 am to Gary Busey
FAU plays Miami tonight if anyone wants to preview our next opponent.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 9:47 am to Gary Busey
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For those curious, the NET rankings and team sheets will go public for the first time this season on December 16. They’ll be updated daily through Selection Sunday.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 10:54 am to Chadaristic
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Alabama's Herb Jones (elbow) has no structural damage following an MRI, per Nate Oats. Will be a game-time decision for Monday's game against FAU.
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