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re: UA Basketball (16-15, 8-10)

Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46264 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 4:03 pm to
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The thing that makes it difficult is knowing we could be so much better than we are if we slow things down to a normal pace. But that’s not what we hired Oats to do and for future purposes we should hope he continues to force the ridiculously up-tempo pace.


I kind of disagree with this. I think if we dialed it down from a 10 to an 8 they'd still be learning to play fast while not giving up countless possessions every game by playing completely out of control. You have to crawl before you can walk. I was just expecting to be top ~100 or so in pace this first year and we are top 5. His teams at Buffalo never played quite as fast as we have been this year even when they had upperclassman heavy rosters the last two years.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14950 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:28 pm to
We have gotten the “play fast “ part down pat. We just haven’t gotten to the “play smart while playing fast “ stage yet
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:29 pm to
Kira played as poorly as I've ever seen him play yesterday
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31025 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:30 pm to
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Another thing that makes it difficult is knowing we have a lot of pieces that could thrive in his system, but aren’t because they aren’t used to playing at this pace and using actual plays.
Another positive with this scenario is that play like this attracts the type of players we need, to be successful running this style of game. That's why I think that Oats' recruiting success should be good here.
I can't wait to watch a team of guys who can run the floor, handling the ball, and shoot proficiently, while playing solid defense.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14950 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:36 pm to
Yea he can sell that to recruits too. “We need you to play the style I want” can only help in recruiting . Plus you don’t have to have top flight talent either ( sure it’s better if you do) to have good shooters and versatile players
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:37 pm to
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An update from the Bahamas: Power has been out at Atlantis for about 30 minutes. Will affect @AlabamaMBB tip time. More info when available.


Cecil
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 5:46 pm to
Now some on twitter are saying our game might not even happen. Lord we need this win
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13047 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:20 pm to
Will Bama even beat Southern Miss???
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9078 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:25 pm to
Cecil now saying game probably starts close to on time.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:26 pm to
I know that I'm in the minority, but I've never liked this tournament in the Bahamas.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37845 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:35 pm to
Is it still played on some awkward ballroom court?
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3692 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:36 pm to
I loved it and now I hate it
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14950 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:51 pm to
Yes. You can see the carpet at end if floor . Think Reese had to walk through lobby to get to locker room
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:52 pm to
Yea, it's a strange setup
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30250 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:52 pm to
I think it’s played inside a Casino. For some reason all casinos decide to have the ugliest carpet
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 6:58 pm to
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I kind of disagree with this. I think if we dialed it down from a 10 to an 8 they'd still be learning to play fast while not giving up countless possessions every game by playing completely out of control. You have to crawl before you can walk. I was just expecting to be top ~100 or so in pace this first year and we are top 5. His teams at Buffalo never played quite as fast as we have been this year even when they had upperclassman heavy rosters the last two years.


Even he’s said that he’s had to tell them to slow down at times because they were out of control. I think the crazy pace we’re playing at is a product of us not knowing how to play fast AND smart. Our seemingly almost instantaneous turnovers certainly skew our tempo numbers as well. I’m not saying we can’t slow down. I’m saying we shouldn’t go away from what Nate Oats wants to do, which is play fast.

We’ve had 2 coaches back-to-back tell us they want to play faster, and neither wanted to go through the growing pains of doing so. I can remember points in both their tenures where they had a few games where they played faster (emphasis on fastER) and the result wasn’t great so they reverted back to slowing things down. I’ve accepted this year as a mulligan for the Oats tenure and establishing his offense and familiarizing the players with it should be a priority IMO.
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:03 pm to
Yea, just keep playing fast. I don't believe this team has the ability to win at a slower pace either. Just play fast and let the chips fall wherever.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31025 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:04 pm to
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I know that I'm in the minority, but I've never liked this tournament in the Bahamas.
It's a helluva place to vacation and gamble....especially if everything's comped.
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3692 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:05 pm to
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Will Bama even beat Southern Miss???


If we don’t, we may not beat anyone. This is one of our easiest remaining games
Posted by Bamafan18
Member since Oct 2018
3692 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:38 pm to
Passink just tweeted that the power went out AGAIN
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