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re: Tua was “this close” to staying
Posted on 2/2/20 at 8:37 am to RTRcdub
Posted on 2/2/20 at 8:37 am to RTRcdub
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Auburn was the only team to keep LSU under 30 points all year.
That is a bit deceiving. They moved up and down the field on us. The difference was some big stops in the red zone.
All I can say is I hope Tua becomes a superstar in the NFL. Nothing but respect for him.
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Posted on 2/2/20 at 8:59 am to higgs_boson
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All I can say is I hope Tua becomes a superstar in the NFL. Nothing but respect for him
Everybody's got their bold predictions. Here's mine.
If he plays at all, tua doesn't get out of the preseason without a game missing or season ending injury.
He's as brittle as stained glass and proved beyond the shadow of a doubt he can't handle the rigors of division one football.
How does he survive the NFL?
Posted on 2/2/20 at 9:30 am to Pandy Fackler
How did you get unbanned?
Posted on 2/2/20 at 10:43 am to phaz
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How did you get unbanned?
Being a good person with a good heart. Caring about and loving others.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 1:19 pm to Pandy Fackler
I will get down voted to hell but this honestly the way I feel about it. If we had another year of Tua, we come out blazing, winning by huge margins, and peaking at the right time.
Then Tua goes down with an injury and we are forced to switch horses mid-stream, a huge momentum killer as we head down the stretch and everyone is concerned about Tua's (insert body part) and will it heal in time for the playoffs. I would rather Mac take the reigns and get Young up to speed as quickly as possible.
Better for him and better for us that he take that shot in the pros. I wish him nothing but the best and he will always be a legend for 2 and 26.
Then Tua goes down with an injury and we are forced to switch horses mid-stream, a huge momentum killer as we head down the stretch and everyone is concerned about Tua's (insert body part) and will it heal in time for the playoffs. I would rather Mac take the reigns and get Young up to speed as quickly as possible.
Better for him and better for us that he take that shot in the pros. I wish him nothing but the best and he will always be a legend for 2 and 26.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/2/20 at 1:43 pm to 14&Counting
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I will get down voted to hell but this honestly the way I feel about it. If we had another year of Tua, we come out blazing, winning by huge margins, and peaking at the right time.
Then Tua goes down with an injury and we are forced to switch horses mid-stream, a huge momentum killer as we head down the stretch and everyone is concerned about Tua's (insert body part) and will it heal in time for the playoffs. I would rather Mac take the reigns and get Young up to speed as quickly as possible.
Better for him and better for us that he take that shot in the pros. I wish him nothing but the best and he will always be a legend for 2 and 26.
Tua's snakebit and that's just the way it is.
As a fan (not a player, coach or whatever else) I personally became exhausted with how tua and his various ailments and infirmities sucked every molecule of oxygen out of the season.
If he hung around this year, the entire season would've been one big, long tua watch and that's just tua much.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:39 pm to higgs_boson
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That is a bit deceiving. They moved up and down the field on us. The difference was some big stops in the red zone.
The same can be said for Bama vs Clemson last year, but no other fanbase wants to admit it. Auburn came up big when they needed to in all scenarios but one. Unfortunately, LSU prevailed.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:49 pm to RTRcdub
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The same can be said for Bama vs Clemson last year, but no other fanbase wants to admit it. Auburn came up big when they needed to in all scenarios but one. Unfortunately, LSU prevailed.
Yeah, Clemson kept stopping us in the redzone or near it. Many drives ended up with turnover on downs due to the field position.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 4:08 am to Pandy Fackler
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Fackler
Silly pandy, and the rest of you all who can't appreciate generational talent when you see one.
Year after next you will see his amazing talent at the next level.
He won yall a chip you ungrateful folks.
BTW the kid is plenty durable, he was in HS, and he was here minus a freak injury and 2 high ankle sprains. Oh, you maybe want to talk about the knee he hurt in 2018 against arky, hmm, played through it like a champ rest of the year.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:33 am to Bamadoc
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Silly pandy, and the rest of you all who can't appreciate generational talent when you see one.
You can stop with the generational talent bullshite. Nowadays, this sport gets this so called "generational talent" two and three times a season, every season.
According to alot of folks, this Bryce Young is "generational talent" too. How many generations of "generational talent" can you fit in two football seasons?
People babbled about how Jalen's first season was "generational talent". Joe Burrow is generational talent. That frickin' kid at Ohio State is generational talent. Trevor Lawrence is supposed to be generational talent. Deshaun Watson was generational talent. College football's filthy with this so called generational talent. There's nothing new here.
Who isn't "generational talent" nowadays? Players that are supposed to come around no more than twice in a lifetime, now show up two to three times a season. Save that "generational talent" shite. It's a tired, overused phrase.
Anyway, let's strip the veneer from all this for a moment, shall we.
Tua and his "generational talent" was a culmination of this....
2 and 26.
Various ailments and infirmities that no one could ever stop talking about.
A bus load of percentages and statistics with little to show for it.
And other than one half of incredible football, not one clutch moment in three seasons where he put the team on his back and carried them to something meaningful.
Tua gave Alabama 2 and 26 and that's good enough, I'm not asking for more. But other than that, I'm not gonna pretend the guy was much more than a culmination of numbers and bobo's.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 9:36 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:47 am to Pandy Fackler
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not one clutch moment in three seasons
He was injury prone but do you ever think he didn’t have clutch moments bc of those “bus loads of stats” you speak of?? Dude hardly played in 4th qtr of many games . To deny his talent is crazy IMO
I think the NFL will recognize and reward him for his talents
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 9:57 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 9:58 am to Bear88
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To deny his talent is crazy IMO
I'm not denying his talent. I'm denying he's great. A great football player is more than a culmination of ailments, statistics and percentages.
He didn't achieve greatness for a variety of reasons. Some beyond his control and some well within his control.
As time passes and the shine dulls on Tua, people will begin to view him through a clearer and more honest lense.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 10:05 am to Pandy Fackler
Fair enough . By him sitting a year on the bench and injuries , his sample size is small but to me he was the most talented QB we have ever had and great person .
Posted on 2/3/20 at 10:14 am to Pandy Fackler
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Who isn't "generational talent" nowadays? Players that are supposed to come around no more than twice in a lifetime, now show up two to three times a season. Save that "generational talent" shite. It's a tired, overused phrase.
You are a tough guy to please. What really went wrong? The coaches let the most talented offensive talent ever inlisted at Alabama down.
Since 2017 we have NOT reloaded with the same dedication and talent level with our whistleblowers. We lost our football identity as a team and we are now failing to develop the fundamentals that have been part of our DNA.
Injuries have exacerbated the coaching deficiencies, but sooner or later it rears its ugly head. Fix that and we'll talk.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 10:37 am to Bear88
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his sample size is small but to me he was the most talented QB we have ever had and great person .
That's true.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 10:44 am to bamameister
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You are a tough guy to please
Man I'm pleased. I got zero complaints. None, nada. I don't even have any complaints about this past season. Not one. All things considered, ten and two was a gift from the lord. Had the schedule not been so embarrassingly soft, it could've been so much worse.
I'm just doing a little real talk is all.
As far as tua's concerned, the sum of his parts unfortunately don't add up and a fair amount of it was his own doing.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 2/3/20 at 10:54 am to Pandy Fackler
Tua IS a great QB and a great person. He’s the most accurate QB I’ve ever watched but he has one fatal flaw: Tua is so good, he doesn’t think he can lose, not even for one play. He views a throwaway as a loss, and if only he can extend a play long enough, he can make something happen. And that is his undoing. He can’t or won’t learn it’s ok to live to fight another day. I hope he learns it now or his NFL career will be very short and injury plagued.
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:10 am to phil4bama
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He’s the most accurate QB I’ve ever watched but he has one fatal flaw: Tua is so good, he doesn’t think he can lose, not even for one play. He views a throwaway as a loss, and if only he can extend a play long enough, he can make something happen. And that is his undoing. He can’t or won’t learn it’s ok to live to fight another day. I hope he learns it now or his NFL career will be very short and injury plagued.
All that's true and that's why I don't attach the word "great" to him. It's a subjective word. I don't use it all that loosely.
You really can't talk about Tua in the same vein as the likes of tim tebow, cam newton, Deshaun Watson or joe Burrow.
Now they were "great" and they accomplished great things.
This post was edited on 2/3/20 at 11:25 am
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:12 am to phil4bama
Regarding Dabo coming home, I’m very conflicted on this issue. I think he’s a great recruiter, a good person (even if he grates on the nerves at times vacillating between “aw shucks” and railing how Clemson gets no respect) an awesome evaluator of talent, and a pretty good coach. He’s also got a great thing going at Clemson and has created his own legacy. He will have a tough decision to make if we ever come calling when Nick hangs it up. He loves Alabama but he’s got a good thing going.
My big concern is Dabo has a history of being successful at coasting through the mid major ACC schedule, with the ability to elevate his game for a couple of big games and making the playoffs relatively unscathed. He still seems to have at least one shite the bed game a year against an also ran where they take a loss or a close call. This year it was UNC and the previous two years it was Syracuse. It happens every year. He can coast through the ACC at half throttle with the yearly hiccup and it results in a one loss or an undefeated one annually.
Transplant that modus operandi to the SEC west and it will result in him getting his arse handed to him two or three times a year. I dunno, maybe he can adjust to the competition and he certainly deserves the first right of refusal. But every day he spends where he is makes it more difficult for him to leave. I don’t think he would be the slamdunk legend following a legend many think he would be, at least not at first. Will we ever know?
My big concern is Dabo has a history of being successful at coasting through the mid major ACC schedule, with the ability to elevate his game for a couple of big games and making the playoffs relatively unscathed. He still seems to have at least one shite the bed game a year against an also ran where they take a loss or a close call. This year it was UNC and the previous two years it was Syracuse. It happens every year. He can coast through the ACC at half throttle with the yearly hiccup and it results in a one loss or an undefeated one annually.
Transplant that modus operandi to the SEC west and it will result in him getting his arse handed to him two or three times a year. I dunno, maybe he can adjust to the competition and he certainly deserves the first right of refusal. But every day he spends where he is makes it more difficult for him to leave. I don’t think he would be the slamdunk legend following a legend many think he would be, at least not at first. Will we ever know?
Posted on 2/3/20 at 11:16 am to Pandy Fackler
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As far as tua's concerned, the sum of his parts, unfortunately, don't add up and a fair amount of it was his own doing.
Tua's biggest flaw was his ability to stay healthy. It really was Brodie Croyle all over again. But his left arm and magical, mesmerizing, probably never to be seen again tight spiral accuracy, no, that was sheer legendary stuff.
Tua threw 3 interceptions this season. Tua was never a reckless passer. Mac had 2 pick-sixes vs the barn and that doesn't really seem to be that concerning as a returning starting QB. And if logical minds prevail, it really shouldn't in this day of "offensive" football.
No one has ever come through Tuscaloosa with a better throwing motion or more arm talent with the exception of Joe Willie Namath.
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