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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:34 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:34 pm to phil4bama
Guess I am old school but if he was good enough to sign, he is good enough to be on the team.... you honor that. Gene Stallings used to say if a kid wasn’t good enough to play , it wasn’t his fault , it was the staff’s fault for missing on the evaluation
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:44 pm to Bear88
We don’t know that he didnt see Bediako and Gurley commit and think his playing time was gonna dwindle so he decommitted.
You guys are blaming the staff and have no proof that they made him decommit.
You guys are blaming the staff and have no proof that they made him decommit.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 12:00 am
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:47 pm to CrimsonFever
The way he seems upset and his tweet the other day about “Gods Plan” leads me to believe he wanted to be at Bama
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:52 pm to Bear88
He also didnt say anything negative about the staff. You're speculating.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:56 pm to CrimsonFever
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We son’t know that he didnt see Bediako and Gurley commit and think his playing time was gonna dwindle so he decommitted.
You’re speculating
Posted on 4/12/21 at 11:56 pm to CrimsonFever
I am not trying to start an argument bc we are obviously on different sides of this but I have no doubt he WANTED to be at Bama. It’s all good 
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:09 am to Bear88
None of this matters if we make the Elite 8 or better next year.
Just win, baby.
Just win, baby.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:15 am to alabamabuckeye
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None of this matters if we make the Elite 8 or better next year.
We'll still have people complaining about something.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:52 am to Bear88
quote:he 100% wanted to be here. He posted something on Snapchat earlier about how hurt he was and how he was supposed to be in Tuscaloosa in a month. We just didn’t have the room.
The way he seems upset and his tweet the other day about “Gods Plan” leads me to believe he wanted to be at Bama
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:21 am to Bamafan18
I trust our staff, but I will say that unless additional info comes to light, I’m not liking this. It’s a bad look. The kid had signed with us, and it should have been honored.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:26 am to CrimsonFever
All I know is that this clearly means Oats wants to win NOW. Does he think we can win it all by adding Gurley? I guess so. Langston would be a project.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:21 am to Bamafan18
I just don’t think we knew some of the players were going to enter the transfer portal. It seems like he got over recruited which does suck. I don’t think it will happen in the future because they should be addressing the portal next year.
As I said previously, Oats probably had a man-to-man conversation like he had with Galin Smith about his playing time. I hope this won’t be a common practice in the future, but it does sting to see a young man that wanted to be here so bad hurting over the situation.
Surge, any truth to the rumors we are still trying to make room for him?
As I said previously, Oats probably had a man-to-man conversation like he had with Galin Smith about his playing time. I hope this won’t be a common practice in the future, but it does sting to see a young man that wanted to be here so bad hurting over the situation.
Surge, any truth to the rumors we are still trying to make room for him?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:40 am to phil4bama
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IMHO, Oats sat Wilson down and told him minutes would be hard to come by next year for him because of more developed guys in front of him.
Unless he didn’t qualify academically this is the only plausible answer. Signing a NLI binds both the school and the player. Unlike an offer during recruiting, they can’t be pulled because a better guy signed first.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 6:49 am to JustGetItRight
also how can Oats tell a JUCO kid that more developed players are ahead of him in PT without practice since a lot of kids have never dressed out and played a college game that are coming to campus.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:01 am to mrbroker
Does anyone have some JUCO stats for Langston Wilson?
I swear every article about him published by BOL has zero information in it other than the following paragraph in EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.:
I swear every article about him published by BOL has zero information in it other than the following paragraph in EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.:
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At 6-foot-9, 200 pounds, Wilson is rated the No. 1 junior college power forward and the No. 2 junior college prospect in the country, per the industry-generated 247Sports Composite Rankings.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:08 am to CrimsonFever
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We don’t know that he didnt see Bediako and Gurley commit and think his playing time was gonna dwindle so he decommitted.
You guys are blaming the staff and have no proof that they made him decommit.
And you are finding new ways in every post to explain why the kid really wasn't all that good and was actually super old and didn't fit and probably wasn't what we wanted anyway, etc.
We don't know. We got good players, he's going to be elsewhere, nobody knows what exactly happened and why and how. I don't get why we can't just all accept that. We've been creating possible scenarios for how this all will happen and then how it did happen for going on 15 pages now. We don't know. The staff clearly liked him a lot, they signed him, then we signed a grad transfer we also really like, and Wilson either left on his own, was pushed out or it was somewhere in between those two things. I don't love the way it happened (regardless of the specifics), but it's how big-time CBB works in the transfer era. Wilson will find another home very quickly.
It is what it is.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 7:11 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I don't love the way it happened (regardless of the specifics), but it's how big-time CBB works in the transfer era.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.
People want players to have mobility, small schools to be competitive, and players to have scholarship security. You can't have all 3 though.
I will say though that if the one time blanket waiver becomes permanent they need to eliminate the early signing period and not allow anyone to sign until May.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 7:23 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:24 am to Robot Santa
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.
People want players to have mobility, small schools to be competitive, and players to have scholarship security. You can't have all 3 though.
I hate it because Wilson has been locked in for a long time and clearly wants to be at Alabama. However, I also realize that he is a very talented player and that mobility between schools is basically hypersonic at this point - he will be immediately able to sign and play at a new (probably very good) program.
It doesn't feel like when you pull a scholarship from a 3-star football recruit 4 days before signing day and he's all of a sudden starting from scratch with limited options.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 7:25 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah he will definitely land on his feet somewhere. I mean this is what people asked for. Stuff like this is the consequence of fostering an environment where you promote the equivalent of free agency without also having contracts. If Wilson isn't released from his LOI it would have just been KAH or Miles since Rojas is apparently untouchable. Someone loses out because these dudes aren't getting paid and from a competitiveness standpoint there is absolutely no downside to cutting them loose if you can bring in someone better. The only drawback is potential harm to the program's reputation, but if you're putting guys into the NBA most kids won't give a shite about any of that.
And just to be clear, I am in favor of kids being able to transfer. What I am not in favor of is the NCAA incentivizing it and setting up a system that fricks high school and JuCo recruits by suddenly adding 1000+ players who have already shown an ability to play at the D1 level to the recruiting pool in April of every year. Honestly, what did anyone expect coaches would do? 90% of them are 1-2 bad seasons away from being fired at all times. Of course they're going to stack their rosters with as much proven D1 talent as they possibly can.
And just to be clear, I am in favor of kids being able to transfer. What I am not in favor of is the NCAA incentivizing it and setting up a system that fricks high school and JuCo recruits by suddenly adding 1000+ players who have already shown an ability to play at the D1 level to the recruiting pool in April of every year. Honestly, what did anyone expect coaches would do? 90% of them are 1-2 bad seasons away from being fired at all times. Of course they're going to stack their rosters with as much proven D1 talent as they possibly can.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 7:46 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:12 am to Bryant91092
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Until he says something negative about the staff, I’m going to assume he wasn’t forced out and this was a conclusion he came to on his own and our staff will be gracious and release him from his NLI.
I tend to agree. Lots of jumping to conclusions around here that we forced him out, but when we got Bediako and Gurley this week, his playing time likely went way down, so he very logically may want to look around. Having just Tchikou, Hilton and Rojas is quite a different picture from adding Bediako and Gurley in there.
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