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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:47 am to
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:47 am to
So you're guessing exactly 5 million a year.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:47 am to
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How much ya'll think Oats contract is gonna be per year? I guess 4.6 million.


Rothstein's 2nd tweet said 5 so I'll guess that. Only coaches of genuine blue-bloods will be making much more than that
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:48 am to
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12M being the highest buyout figure in year 1 doesn’t really scream that much of an improvement for me.


Where did you get 12 million from? It's 12.7 this year on his current contract. I assume it will be higher on the new contract.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:50 am to
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Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:50 am to
He said approximately 5 million, I don't think he knows the exact details. I would love for it to be 5 million or over.
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:50 am to
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Greg Byrne: First year Oats buyout is $12M. Year 2: $10M. Year 3: $7M. Byrne: "Those first two years especially would be one of the highest buyouts in men's college basketball in the country."
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:50 am to
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12M being the highest buyout figure in year 1 doesn’t really scream that much of an improvement for me. By year 3 it’s down to 7 million and that would deter no one from going after him if they really wanted him. This seems like a big improvement for Oats but I’m not sure how great it was from the UA side.


Where are you seeing those numbers? His buyout right now is more than $12 million. Giving him a raise with a reduced buyout would make no sense at all. If he demanded a reduced buyout during the negotiations, that tells you all you need to know about his future plans.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to
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They were probably talking about his buyout this year under his current contract.
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to
So two years from now, if Oats is still having good success we’ll be in the same spot where UA will have to redo a contract and up his pay and the buyout amounts. Agents bend over athletic departments every single time without fail.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:51 am to
Its gonna be higher than 12 million.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:52 am to
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I’m not just pulling numbers out of my arse here.
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:57 am to
You're not going to get any coach to sign a contract that prevents him from ever leaving. What UA has done with Oats is the best case scenario. The way to keep him from leaving is to make sure he isn't at a disadvantage in recruiting.
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to
My only real complaint is that athletic directors let an agent bend them over time and time again. This deal is structured great for Oats and it guarantees there will be a renegotiation in another 2 years.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:59 am to
Yea I feel like that's pretty good. It's silly for us to give him a lifetime deal and it's silly for him to basically lock in here forever too. This is a commitment for 2-3 years that basically says I'm here without discussion. Then in 2 years we revisit everything in terms of buyout.

And guess what......if we haven't built or started an arena in 2 years? He's gonna be having a different buyout convo. And with good reason.

Honestly, it's good for the fans. It means the arena will continue to be at the forefront, and it gives Byrne leverage selling the need for it.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:04 am to
$12M is a massive CBB buyout. When Texas hired Beard his buyout was only $4M
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:05 am to
We gotta bump Hodgson pay up too. His recruiting is too valuable
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:06 am to
He's gonna get a good mid-major gig here soon. The guy is an ace recruiter and a great teacher.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:07 am to
That's lower than his current buyout, which is surprising. Oats must have negotiated a lower buyout.


Posted by TheNameIsDalton
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:08 am to
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My only real complaint is that athletic directors let an agent bend them over time and time again. This deal is structured great for Oats and it guarantees there will be a renegotiation in another 2 years.



If things are going well, both parties are going to be happy to renegotiate every two years. I don't see this as an issue. Alabama continues to keep the buyout one of the highest in the country, Oats is getting paid like he deserves, and if he keeps winning he'll continue getting paid.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 11:09 am to
It's slightly lower in year 1 ($12.5 vs 12) and slight higher in year 2 (9.8 vs 10.0) and exactly the same in year 3 (7).
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 11:10 am
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