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Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:37 am to
Posted by bamagoat
Member since Jun 2023
729 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:37 am to
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Maybe Stevenson still based on potential but he really needs another year. Could you talk either into possibly coming back next year..or would they with what we have coming in for the front court.


I can't judge anything about Stevenson yet. Because no one knows what kind of player he will be in March.
In my personal opinion, if he plays for one more year, I think he has the potential to be a superstar. This is because he will be the starter regardless of Sherrell, Reid, and Cunningham.
The problem depends on what Stevenson thinks.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:48 am to
I’m afraid Nelson and Estrada might be like AAAA baseball players. Way too good for mid major and okay high major teams but not good enough to be go to options for a top 20 team.

That's a pretty damn good analogy. I think either would be stud 6th men. But neither looks like leaders on the floor. Estrada and Nelson started off so hot offensively, but are inefficient as hell against high major defenders. They've turned into liabilities, especially defensively.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 10:51 am to
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It’s still a neutral site game. We had more fans than Ohio State in November but it fortunately doesn’t make it a home game


Well technically, that arena held 2,400 people. That game was basically played in a high school gym.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13049 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:00 am to
You think a six and four team that is 1-4 against the better teams they played has a shot a one of the best teams in the country in Arizona?

Take those Crimson glasses off and face the fact that this Alabama team is no where near as good as the last three years.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:02 am to
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A ban bet on Alabama basketball making a second weekend NCAAt run is just…are you high right now?


Don't go blaming some good weed for some bad opinions. Personally, I blame the lead lobby and an intentionally bad state public education system.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:26 am to
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That being said, it’s also ok to admit this team has been somewhat disappointing. Estrada and Nelson have been very underwhelming. Nelson isn’t an NBA player right now, let alone a first round draft pick. And we are bad defensively. Awful. We’ve played 5 P5 teams and four of them have shot 50% or better from the field. We’ve yet to hold a P5 to below 85 points. This isn’t a great team, but if a 5-9 seed in the tourney is our floor under Oats, I think you take that all day.


This.

We got fricked this off-season, and this roster is the result. Bediako should've come back, and surprised us. Walton has played well for Memphis. And Quin leaving left a huge leadership void (I've got my jq gripes, but having a 25 year old PG would've been huge for closing out games). Only player we wouldn't have kept would've been either Nelson, Stevenson. Or Wague (though even that's not guaranteed).

Imagine a lineup of JQ, Sears, Walton, Nelson, and Bediako. Compare that to having freshmen wings getting the PT, when they're obviously not ready defensively, and barely ready offensively.

Oats managed to scrape together a damn solid lineup, just not what we've gotten accustomed to. But we're still fighting like hell in hostile road environments.

But go read any national board with non SEC fans. Neutral fans respect us, and want nothing to do with us in an elimination setting. We're flawed as hell, but still dangerous.


This looks like a bit of a rebuild year. Yes, with the portal and everything else, teams don't rebuild like they used to. But it seems like we are seeing Oats' floor as a coach. For a team that's one been to 1 elite 8, it's unrealistic to have identical expectations as Kansas or UConn, and expect to be a top 3 seed every year. Especially considering the shite luck we had this off-season.

It would be too fitting if we strung along a mediocre year, just to pull an Arkansas and get hot as hell in March. I'm not holding my breath. But we've got a team that can make almost anyone sweat on the right night. It's a fun but frustrating team to watch. I get the panic, but I would rather play this schedule vs playing a cupcakes. Losing sucks but winning by 30 vs low majors is boring.


On a positive note, Sears is becoming one of my all time Bama favorites. Plays with passion, a shitload of effort, and has continued to develop with each game. I just hate he's not getting the help he needs down the stretch. But there's still another 20+games left, so I haven't written them off yet. Plus, our biggest holes are going to be filled next year. Having Reid and Sherrell, 2 5*s that already have chemistry together, is going to do huge things for our team defense.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:31 am to
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We are still going to be kicking cans in the portal looking guards next year though. And these transfer portal mid major guys are usually mid major for a reason as we’ve seen this year.


Whether they're out of high school or the portal, finding good guards is always tough. Sears was a mid major undersized 2 guard from the portal. But he's developed into a elite PG. He runs the offense well. His development this off-season has been impressive as hell.

So i like the idea of portal guards, because as they say, Freshmen guards don't win in March. But imo, it's preferable to sign guys with a couple of years of eligibility versus a grad transfer. They may have balled out at a mid major School, we're having that extra year to develop them into a good defender and fix holes in their game is the difference between last years Sears and what you see today.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:34 am to
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Then we have three freshmen-Cosby, Parker, and Dioubate, who we don’t trust enough to see the floor. Wouldn’t surprise me if all three are in the portal after the season


I hate to be a dick and call out a freshman. But every time he touches the ball, he does something dumb and impulsive. He's a great athlete. But shouldn't have burned his redshirt. He's definitely gonna need all 5 years of eligibility to be effective at the high major level.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:40 am to
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You think a six and four team that is 1-4 against the better teams they played has a shot a one of the best teams in the country in Arizona?


If we had lost the last 2 games like we did vs Ohio St, of course not. But if you think we have no chance after the last 2 games, then you're just willfully ignorant. We're all pissed off and disappointed. But this team can hang with anyone, and will eventually put a complete game together. If you think otherwise and this season is already over, then I've got the perfect song for you...
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:43 am to
Bama just got to get a WIN!

WIN TUESDAY NIGHT!!
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25162 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 11:49 am to
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Bama just got to get a WIN!

WIN TUESDAY NIGHT!!


Maybe you should follow my lead, and smoke a bunch of weed and drink strong coffee to start the morning. Then you might know what day we play




;)
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18095 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Updated SEC basketball NET rankings after Saturday's action: •

Tennessee - 8
Alabama - 10
Texas A&M - 16
Auburn - 22
Kentucky - 27
South Carolina - 41
MSU - 47
Florida - 55
Ole Miss - 64
Missouri - 85
Arkansas - 100
Georgia - 121
LSU - 167
Vanderbilt - 302
Posted by passthetylenol
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
675 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:36 pm to
Naysayers response in 3....2....1....
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 12:44 pm to
LANK

Coach Oats had to get new assistants and majority of the team last year left to the NBA.

I believe the team will be ready for conference play. The tough non conference schedule has helped despite what the record looks right now
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30289 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 2:25 pm to
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Lol Creighton is not a mid major


I know. I was asking him why he thought they were
Posted by Alum69
Member since Jan 2021
261 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:28 pm to
Also.
LINK
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30289 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:29 pm to
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“Over the past 7 years, Auburn Basketball has the best non-conference record in the SEC.” Auburn HC Bruce Pearl


This isn’t the Flex Bruce thinks it is
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18095 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 3:34 pm to
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Got to figure out what has Nelson in a funk though.


He literally got injured 3 games ago and has been playing through it. Seems like some of you “experts” on the basketball team didn’t start watching them this year til the Purdue game.
This post was edited on 12/17/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17948 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 4:32 pm to
I have watched most of the games and his injury must not be keeping him off the court. Either way we cant shoot 18% from 3 point and win
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9122 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 5:06 pm to
Juwan Gary playing well for Nebraska.
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