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re: There is no Milroe coalition in the locker room

Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:35 am to
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27850 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:35 am to
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trying to trip people…



This alone should have landed him on the bench.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:51 am to
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but it was evident that many of the offensive players didn't give a proper effort in the USF game last season when Ty was playing.


Provide the evidence.

Enough of this conspiracy bullshite. Actually provide plays that showed these guys were trying to lose if Milroe didn't start.

Posted by footstepsfalco
Member since Sep 2018
1038 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 1:09 am to
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Has anyone come to the conclusion that maybe, just maybe, Milroe was the best qb option we had? I'd hate to think it but it's looking more and more the case!


So this is my question, if you line up Ty, Holstein, Mack, and Lonegran…not one of those guys throws a touchdown on the last play of the game. Mind you it’s a 15 yard throw to a wide open man in the end zone that Milroe skipped 4 yards short. Not one of those guys can throw 15 yards? Come on.
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 5:53 am to
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Provide the evidence.


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YStar


Like any evidence would convice you? You've fought tooth and nail against anyone and anything who question your beloved QB.
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 5:55 am to
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This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 6:13 am
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21849 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:02 am to
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This alone should have landed him on the bench.


My question now is what would have taken for Jalen Milroe to be benched? NCAA allegations forcing him to be ineligible? An arrest coupled with a guilty plea for a felony charge?

Clearly there was literally no limit to what Milroe could do on the football field that would jeopardize losing position. Jalen could’ve thrown more pick sixes today and DeBoer would’ve trotted him right back out there because Jalen had “the look.”
Posted by prattalumni
Member since Sep 2012
875 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:11 am to
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So this is my question, if you line up Ty, Holstein, Mack, and Lonegran…not one of those guys throws a touchdown on the last play of the game. Mind you it’s a 15 yard throw to a wide open man in the end zone that Milroe skipped 4 yards short. Not one of those guys can throw 15 yards? Come on.


Don't worry about Ystar. For whatever reason, he'd blame the Oline, OC, HC, the weather patterns, and inflation before he'd place anything on Milroe. He doesn't believe politics are what kept Milroe as the starter. He really thinks he was the best QB we had...lol.
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
965 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:22 am to
This ^^^^^. Y Star simply cannot cope with the fact Radio is a HORRIBLE QB. Never seen anyone who is more unable to cope with reality and a guy who is literally wrong in everything he's ever said on here.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:08 am to
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Y Star simply cannot cope with the fact Radio is a HORRIBLE QB.


I have said Milroe is mentally weak and turns to Bad or Worst Milroe God knows how many times.

Maybe it is you who can't cope with the fact that Milroe isn't our only significant issue and if we don't address those significant issues 2025 will be a repeat of 2024.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:11 am to
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Like any evidence would convice you? You've fought tooth and nail against anyone and anything who question your beloved QB.


Per usual here.

No evidence or discussion just personal attacks from frustrated losers.

I have always wanted Ty Simpson over Milroe by the way. Check my post history over last summer and this one.

I just know our only issue isn't QB and whenever I point to the other issues you guys can't comprehend it because you need one villian and can't understand this team had significant issue in many places
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2024 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:56 am to
I had always thought that before Coach Saban stepped down, there would be a known coach in waiting, and a much smoother transition that what actually happened a year ago.

I would like to know what the players said to CNS that basically made him retire at the spur of the moment.

Whatever transpired set up what we experienced this year. CKD is a good coach but thinking he would step in and keep the Saban train rolling without a hiccup is unfair to him.

Having said that, CKD's refusal to sit Milroe, for even a series or two, is in my mind related back to why Nick said "I'm out".

Hope whatever is is/was gets cleaned and CKD gets to implement his plan without further interference.

Having said all this, if Milroe does stay, I'm likely to opt out of fandom, because I believe Milroe and maybe some other players have control beyond what a player should have. Milroe is on the record saying he's "a business man first" or something to that effect.

RTR
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 7:57 am
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4266 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:47 am to
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Understandable but I have first hand knowledge that there are players who aren’t happy with him.


So given what we saw last year at South Florida, it would make sense that the team that “chose” Milroe would also have to “unchoose” Milroe.

Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:50 am to
With the transfer portal and recruiting signing day, there is no longer a good time for a coach to quit/retire/fired.

Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 am to
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Ryan Williams and Germie Bernard

Weren't here last year when Milroe locked himself in.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5998 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:21 am to
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Don't worry about Ystar. For whatever reason, he'd blame the Oline, OC, HC, the weather patterns, and inflation before he'd place anything on Milroe. He doesn't believe politics are what kept Milroe as the starter. He really thinks he was the best QB we had...lol.


Stop! Y Star can be off-putting, but anyone with two eyes and a functioning brain can see that Alabama has more trouble than just Milroe. 1) The Oline was embarrassingly bad. 2) On the final play our receiver did not even try to come back to the ball. He was yanking out his mouth piece before it hit the ground. Michigan defenders were at least running to the ball.

Putting a second string qb behind that line would have been a horror show for them. Furthermore, not a one of us has any true insight as to whether Simpson is even close to capable. He may be just as incapable but without the year of experience. I saw him shy away from contact in one of his mop up roles - I think it was LSU. So, I have some questions about his desire.

In the end, head coaches aren’t playing Madden. There is no reset button when things go bad. There’s no 15 minutes of smack talk for losing. Those guys are held accountable by ADs and can lose their job for not just losses but for replacing a QB who took the reigning champs to the wire with a guy who is just as bad. They simply must play percentages and engage in best practices.

Imagine the heat if Deboer had started with Simpson over Milroe to begin the season. It would have been utterly unacceptable in the eyes of the media- who have a lot of sway. They can ruin a guy with enough stories about a white qb replacing a black qb who Loves the program and took them a year ago to the semis. Imagine if Simpson had been named the preseason starter and then struggled. “Coach, what were you thinking replacing an SEC championship qb with a less athletic back up?” . You don’t get to be a successful head coach by being stupid.

It is really easy to coach from the couch or for that matter to run the church from the pews, but reality is quite different when you are the one in charge, who has a complete picture, and who is held ultimately accountable.

There is a reason why several posters on here were kicked off of whatever other Bama board they were on. Those boards contain sober-minded people who don’t act like a 14 year old kid saying “ They suuuuuck” “Fire everybody” just because things don’t go well in the moment. They have resilience and act like men. I would suggest we do the same.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21849 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:26 am to
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Putting a second string qb behind that line would have been a horror show for them.


You must have missed the first quarter.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
23870 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:32 am to
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Putting a second string qb behind that line would have been a horror show for them.

Milroe has been a horror show for much of the season. The fact of the matter is he is a complete miss fit for this offense and high floor but low ceiling QB who panics when things don’t run smoothly.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11629 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:50 am to
So some of y’all are saying Milroe is a better option in the eyes of 2 coaching staffs, one led by the GOAT, than Ty, Eli Holstein, Julian Sayin, Dylan Lonergan, and Austin Mack? I refuse to believe that fever dream. There is no effing way. But two of those guys transferred probably because they knew they would never see the field and knew they were better than the starter. Eli had Pitt undefeated and in the ACC title conversation until he went down with an injury. The whole premise is untenable. There has to be something else that cemented Milroe as #1.

And just for arguments sake, let’s play along with the assumption that #4 is the best we’ve got out of the 6 QB’s in the locker room last season. Why didn’t Saban and why doesn’t DeBoer go to one of the backups when Milroe is shitting the bed? Even if just for a couple of series to jump start the offense or give Milroe a chance to collect his wits. There are only 2 logical explanations: 1) the mutiny story is true and you will have another USF 2023 game and situation on your hands or 2) you know the backup is going to show Milroe up and you will have a QB controversy on your hands. Personally, I don’t care which one is the case, I would have rather lost this season for the future integrity of the program and/or lost with a lesser QB than to be held hostage by any player.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 10:40 am
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5998 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:04 am to
I saw the first quarter. It was terrible on many levels. But, what did you think was going to be gained by yanking Milroe and throwing in Simpson who had basically back up practice time during preparations and asking him to play behind a turnstile of an offensive line?

Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:08 am to
Ty has been the backup for two years. Two spring games and two fall practices. It's not like he has to borrow a helmet to get into the game.
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