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re: The Book of Milroe has been officially written at this point

Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by Section 80
Member since Apr 2013
873 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:27 pm to
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Not being able to get Drake Maye in 2023 really set us back.




Drake Maye decommiting in 2021 is the reason we ended up with Milroe in the first place.



Sickening
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9694 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:32 pm to
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The fact Kalen didn't meet him at the hash speaks volumes. Is the HC afraid of his pathetic QB?


No I dont think so. I just think is a calculating, non-rash, stoic guy. We saw him get as fired up for the BS penalty as weve ever seen him but for the most part, hes gonna stay even keeled.

Its easy for me to say id have chewed him out and benched him. I dont go to practice, dont deal with the behind the scenes stuff. CKD does. I think he is not only a good coach but a wise man so im gonna roll with his decisions
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9015 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:34 pm to
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Both sets of offensive coaches (and 2 head coaches) clearly thought that in totality he was the better option for the 12 game season than Simpson. Feels like an indictment of Simpson, but who knows what the total story is.



The story's likely the one with the most simple explanation. Benching Milroe would be a potential soap opera - season killer if the other guy doesn't play well and loses. Both sets of coaches in both seasons felt like Simpson wasn't going to beat teams like Georgia et al -- and would make it a bit of a rebuilding season -- but Milroe potentially could.

This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Section 80
Member since Apr 2013
873 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Our QB room is full of bums.



Simpson, Lonergan and Mack are all more talented QBs than miLroe


We are going to look back at this and say "how the frick was miLroe the starting QB in '23 and '24"
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22264 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:42 pm to
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The story's likely the one with the most simple explanation. Benching Milroe would be a potential soap opera - season killer if the other guy doesn't play well and loses. Both sets of coaches in both seasons felt like Simpson wasn't going to beat teams like Georgia et al -- and would make it a bit of a rebuilding season -- but Milroe potentially could.


I think you're mostly right. But, Simpson being a RS freshman last year probably had a lot to do with him not starting. And, then Deboer walked into a situation where we were losing players to the portal and we had a returning starter at QB. He probably thought keeping what continuity he had was in their best interest. I think he was wrong, but I think that was a deciding factor.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9015 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:47 pm to
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I think you're mostly right. But, Simpson being a RS freshman last year probably had a lot to do with him not starting. And, then Deboer walked into a situation where we were losing players to the portal and we had a returning starter at QB. He probably thought keeping what continuity he had was in their best interest. I think he was wrong, but I think that was a deciding factor.



Yeah, that Milroe was obviously instrumental in keeping a lot of guys from transferring so it would have been even more of a soap opera to bench him and then have Simpson look like a deer in headlights against Georgia etc. . . especially if everyone is watching Milroe outperform Simpson in practice.

Deboer sure didn't walk into the easiest situation in that regard.


Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12562 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:52 pm to
Getting the backup QB snaps with the 1st team should be a major objective each season. You have to see what a player can do with the best and not the 2nd bunch. Coach Bryant sent the 2nd team QB in the 2nd qtr no matter what the score was or who Bama was playing.

You can't wait until the last 3 minutes and insert into the game with the other backups and expect to get great feedback on what the guy can do when it matters.
Posted by PowHound
The Peoples Moderator
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:57 pm to
Remember when I told everyone this and you asked me if I was serious ? Yeah, I was serious.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4650 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:58 pm to
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season killer if the other guy doesn't play well and loses.


The season is dead. Only thing left is beating Auburn. If Milroe comes out and stinks it up again DeBoer better put somebody else in or wildcat with the RBs.

Everyone talks about the South Florida game loafing. None of the players acted like they wanted to win the game, embarrassing. All that bs talk is talk. Coaches don’t change, make adjustments, try the same damn play like it’s LSU’s front seven. Do we even scout teams? Do we still have analysts breaking things down during the game?

Coaches are hardly ever coaching Milroe on the sideline. Only time they what to coach on the sideline is to get a good tictok video.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12562 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:00 pm to
Milroe doesn't have a tablet. He has an Etch A Sketch.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105511 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 5:14 pm to
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Remember when I told everyone this and you asked me if I was serious ? Yeah, I was serious.


You were correct.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
19777 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:10 pm to
I read everything. This just makes me sad. Nothing else to say really.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
12192 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:35 pm to
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Is Ty Simpson really so bad that he couldn’t beat out that idiot who is starting for us now ? I will never believe that Ty was given a fair shot of winning the job last year. Saban should have told Milroe and his posse to f*ck off last year after the USF game. Milroe has ruined this program.


I can’t believe that Ty has been given a legit shot. At best, they see the potential with Jalen and can’t get past it.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6934 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:47 pm to
It's very simple to me. Saban always said the players knows who should be QB. I take that to mean they know who their guy is and they are going to ride with it, factions come into play if all else is equal. That is what happened last year. The other two got a shot, regardless of the circumstances, so he didn't look back.

This year DeBoer is loyal to a fault. Remember his comments after the Malachi incident. He will not sit Milroe.
Posted by Bamadoc
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
4460 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:52 pm to
How could he(Ty) get a fair shot when Milroe was on his preseason Media blitz, from not just sports shows but Good Morning America and the like.

Gotta give it to him though. He knew his limitations and made sure he was intertwined with everything Alabama football. Making sure without a doubt he would be QB1.

Not a blue or red thing , but he is going to be one fine politician one day.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11208 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:58 pm to
Ty Simpson doesn’t look bad but he’s never done anything that made me think “he’s gotta start” like Tua did at times in 2017. In fact, sometimes his throws look fairly wobbly and not particularly accurate. He does seem to be decisive and correct about where he’s going with the ball. However, he clearly has seen the OL enough to not trust the pocket and bail early at times.

This past Saturday, he would’ve been an upgrade over what we got from Milroe but I don’t know if you could say that over the balance of the season. He could end up being a chaos agent like Nussmeier.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12562 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:01 pm to
Again, you saw Ty with the 1st team once at USF last year.

You have never seen him play with the 1st team since then.

He may very well shite the bed but the 1st team QB has shite the bed time and time again this year.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
5441 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:02 pm to
Ty has played exclusively with the second team OL. We don’t know what he would look like with a clean pocket to throw from with the first team unit protecting him.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11208 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
I don’t think you can only evaluate with the starters. It is certainly more helpful. That’s why I was mostly focusing on his technical execution.
Posted by PowHound
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Member since Jul 2014
7189 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 7:22 pm to
If you sit pine for years, and then suddenly have 6 minutes to show the coaches, team, your family, and everyone watching on national TV that you can play QB1 suddenly all the WRs look open, and it's easy to do too much.

Same in baseball for bats coming off the bench... "why did he swing at that!" Because he's been dreaming of a center cut fastball for a week from the bench.

You either played sports growing up and understand these things, or you didn't and you dont.

If Ty had been starting since last year I think he would be very comfortable and in command of the offense by now.
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