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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?

Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:46 am to
Posted by John Milner
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:46 am to
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Are you watching the pathetic tackling by our guys? The lack of hustle?


The simple confusion. Hell, too many times we can't even get the correct number on the field before incurring a penalty. I don't think I've ever seen an Alabama defense fail in so many facets that late in the year

edit to say that if he stays I think it's probably because Saban desires continuity more than hiring yet another DC. I'm sure it will work if Saban gets more directly involved in the defense scheming, game planning, and in game management.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:49 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:52 am to
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I don't think the 17 defense was even in the ball park of being shorthanded than this boat load of children we watched this year. Rashaan Evans was a beast in the middle and kept Mack wilson lined up correctly after SDH went down.



Evans played outside against Mississippi State didn't he? Did he get hurt during the game? Our 2 starting ILBs were Keith Holcombe (inexperienced, incapable) and Dylan Moses (true freshman with no experience at all) I thought.

That's why I specifically said the MSU and Auburn games.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:54 am to
Perhaps Nick didn't make the move because he couldn't hire the guy he wanted (replace Pete). Steele got a new deal from the cow college I see. He is being paid well and more than any DC Nick's had at Bama.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 8:55 am to
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The simple confusion. Hell, too many times we can't even get the correct number on the field before incurring a penalty. I don't think I've ever seen an Alabama defense fail in so many facets that late in the year






You are correct sir. It's not about sticking your finger in the leak anymore. Fundamentals are what we do. We may not always have the fastest, biggest, baddest, at every position, but seldom did we ever have the confusion, the uncertainty, that came with the last 2 seasons.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 8:56 am
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:03 am to
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Did you watch the gamplan we had for South Carolina? Did you watch that freshman QB carve up are defense all day, 5 and 10 yards at a time?

Did you see the gameplan we had for Ole Miss's freshman running QB? Did you see us even come close to shutting down about the only thing the rebels could do?

You need to get Joe Burrows off your brain. Cause our DC just made Bo Nix look like SEC freshman of the year.

Are you paying attention? Are you watching the pathetic tackling by our guys? The lack of hustle? The lack of belief?

I would happily tell coach Saban that Freddie Roach ain't Derrick Ansley. Bring him home. Dial-up Glenn Schumann and make him an offer to come home and coach inside LBers. Let's see, Derrick Ansley, and Glenn Schumann, there's a good start to putting a wrench on something that's actually broke.


It really all boils down to some of you think true freshman should be as good as a guy 3 and 4 years in the program, and there is really nothing that can be said that will fix that ignorance.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:06 am to
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It really all boils down to some of you think true freshman should be as good as a guy 3 and 4 years in the program, and there is really nothing that can be said that will fix that ignorance.



Yea - I think it's just an incomplete grade. Having a front 7 dominated by true freshman starting is just not a recipe for a great defense.

Next year the talent and experience is there for a major jump in production.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:07 am to
8 and 35 were not close to even good in 2019...10,42,and 36 can't even see good from where they are. There is a reason Nick is happy to have a 6 year guy back than never played a meaningful down in his 5 years. These new freshmen better be it because the last 3 years of recruiting for ILB has been a crash and burn deal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:09 am to
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8 and 35 were not close to even good in 2019...10,42,and 36 can't even see good from where they are. There is a reason Nick is happy to have a 6 year guy back than never played a meaningful down in his 5 years. These new freshmen better be it because the last 3 years of recruiting for ILB has been a crash and burn deal.



8 is absolutely going to be a stud
Posted by Sauron
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:12 am to
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The simple confusion. Hell, too many times we can't even get the correct number on the field before incurring a penalty. I don't think I've ever seen an Alabama defense fail in so many facets that late in the year


Seems like I remember Kirby Smart's defenses having issues with that on multiple occasions during his time at Alabama. Granted, it was when the HUNH stuff was really taking hold, and he didn't adjust to that concept quickly enough.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:19 am to
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It really all boils down to some of you think true freshman should be as good as a guy 3 and 4 years in the program, and there is really nothing that can be said that will fix that ignorance.


What it boils down to is your inability to discuss the defensive issues short of putting Lee and Harris's picture on it. I may be one of the very few over here that's isn't putting all this crap on 2 freshmen LBers.

We just talked about getting guys off the field without confusion and a 5-yard penalty, how do you think that reflects on Golding's ability to stay organized when real bullets were flying? How do you feel when the problem is just as pronounce at the end of the season as the beginning?

Diggs and Surtain and many more were giving their peewee football impression of how to wrap up a ball carrier, or tackle in space, all-season. Guys were struggling with who to take in coverage. How does that reflect on a DC that actually is getting paid big money to "coordinate" this stuff?

In the Nickle we seldom dialed up the pressure to the QB, from anyone, how does that reflect on the job Golding is doing?

To name just a few things I've wondered about all season.

It's such a lazy argument at this point for anyone to stare at Lee and Harris and thing that's all our defense was struggling with this season. I sincerely wish it was.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:24 am to
maybe, but he could not tackle for most of the year. I think I can almost out run the other one. I dont care what yall say, but you cant coach speed. Experience wont fix that. He might get a little faster with training over the next 3 years, but not a lot. It was like taking candy from a baby when the other QB saw him trying to cover a decent running back. Good thing coach Steve Superior wasn't coaching against us this year. He would just run the same play over and over if you couldnt stop it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105507 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:26 am to
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maybe, but he could not tackle for most of the year.


I mean, he wasn't an awful tackler. He was also playing linebacker for literally the first time in his life.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:27 am to
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What it boils down to is your inability to discuss the defensive issues short of putting Lee and Harris's picture on it. I may be one of the very few over here that's isn't putting all this crap on 2 freshmen LBers.

We just talked about getting guys off the field without confusion and a 5-yard penalty, how do you think that reflects on Golding's ability to stay organized when real bullets were flying? How do you feel when the problem is just as pronounce at the end of the season as the beginning?

Diggs and Surtain and many more were giving their peewee football impression of how to wrap up a ball carrier, or tackle in space, all-season. Guys were struggling with who to take in coverage. How does that reflect on a DC that actually is getting paid big money to "coordinate" this stuff?

In the Nickle we seldom dialed up the pressure to the QB, from anyone, how does that reflect on the job Golding is doing?

To name just a few things I've wondered about all season.

It's such a lazy argument at this point for anyone to stare at Lee and Harris and thing that's all our defense was struggling with this season. I sincerely wish it was.


And despite all of that, we still had a pretty good year defensively, statistically speaking, and had really only one objectively bad game(against the GOAT offense.)
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:30 am to
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What it boils down to is your inability to discuss the defensive issues short of putting Lee and Harris's picture on it. I may be one of the very few over here that's isn't putting all this crap on 2 freshmen LBers.

We just talked about getting guys off the field without confusion and a 5-yard penalty, how do you think that reflects on Golding's ability to stay organized when real bullets were flying? How do you feel when the problem is just as pronounce at the end of the season as the beginning?

Diggs and Surtain and many more were giving their peewee football impression of how to wrap up a ball carrier, or tackle in space, all-season. Guys were struggling with who to take in coverage. How does that reflect on a DC that actually is getting paid big money to "coordinate" this stuff?

In the Nickle we seldom dialed up the pressure to the QB, from anyone, how does that reflect on the job Golding is doing?

To name just a few things I've wondered about all season.

It's such a lazy argument at this point for anyone to stare at Lee and Harris and thing that's all our defense was struggling with this season. I sincerely wish it was.


Just melt and keep on believing you know the situation better than Saban while ignoring that the biggest problem with the inexperience is consistency, while pretending it's only 2 players who were injured.

This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:35 am to
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And despite all of that, we still had a pretty good year defensively, statistically speaking, and had really only one objectively bad game(against the GOAT offense.)



And Georgia's offense only lost 2 games all season. In spite of the fact, they couldn't throw it when it was most important. They too were watching the playoffs at home along with Alabama.

Kinda fun to have a top 3 recruiting class, ain't it?
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:37 am to
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while pretending it's only 2 players who were injured.



Who's "pretending it's only 2 players?"

Have you injured your brain cells?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36455 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:39 am to
quote:


Who's "pretending it's only 2 players?"

Have you injured your brain cells?


The guy who said this:

quote:


What it boils down to is your inability to discuss the defensive issues short of putting Lee and Harris's picture on it. I may be one of the very few over here that's isn't putting all this crap on 2 freshmen LBers.


Serious question: How old are you and how long have you been watching Alabama football?
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:40 am to
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I would happily tell coach Saban that Freddie Roach ain't Derrick Ansley. Bring him home. Dial-up Glenn Schumann and make him an offer to come home and coach inside LBers. Let's see, Derrick Ansley, and Glenn Schumann, there's a good start to putting a wrench on something that's actually broke.


At 68 years old, I'd rather have John effing Mitchell come home and coach on defense. I'd take all 68 years of him right now over everyone who has been mentioned.

Pittsburgh has led the league in sacks for three years in a row.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 9:44 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:43 am to
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Yea - I think it's just an incomplete grade. Having a front 7 dominated by true freshman starting is just not a recipe for a great defense.



Yeah, same. Bamameister and the others may very well be correct. I am not trying to argue that he is the answer, I am just saying that I don't know if he is or not, I just don't believe that things were as bad as they are saying.

I will say, when it was bad, it was BAD. The poor tackling, and wide open RBs and TEs was hard to watch. But as I think you or someone posted before, George, there were about 5 plays in 2019 that if were made, would've probably completely changed the outcome of our season.

I just think that the fixes aren't that drastic, but nevertheless, they have to be fixed.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 9:44 am to
quote:

quote:

What it boils down to is your inability to discuss the defensive issues short of putting Lee and Harris's picture on it. I may be one of the very few over here that's isn't putting all this crap on 2 freshmen LBers.




Just for your comprehension level. That means, it "SHOULD NOT" be put on the shoulders of the 2 freshmen LBers. Get it?

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