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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?
Posted on 1/25/20 at 4:34 pm to 3down10
Posted on 1/25/20 at 4:34 pm to 3down10
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Do you have any idea how crazy it sounds to suggest that we should be able to have years with extreme amounts of injuries and still win a national championship?
I can only guess you must be a newer fan because you have no clue what real suffering is.
I'm sure you'll get some "but 2017!!!" responses to this but the fact is is that 2017 didn't have to play 2019 LSU, and that defense was deep with experienced players basically at every position.
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Posted on 1/25/20 at 4:42 pm to prevatt33b
quote:THIS!
I was an all-state LB, and I disagree.I can't even fathom how 2 true freshman ILB's, one never having played the position before, can be expected to come in at 18 years old and play well in the era of the RPO. Hell, the offensive line can give you a run look AND THE QB STILL THROW THE FOOTBALL! Do any of you have any idea how incredibly difficult that is?And do any of you realize how the best offenses we faced in 2019 came in the latter part of the season, when you expected to see these freshman ILBs take the next step?
YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE IGNORANT AND WRONG.
People don't seem to realize the difference in physical AND mental maturity between an 18 year old and a 21-22 year old who's been through 3 or 4 years of constant athletic training. A team can usually hide 1, or even maybe 2 freshmen in their starting lineup, but not the #s we had to deal with....it just ain't gonna happen, and you can't lay the blame on Golding.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:26 pm to RollTide1987
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We lost Dylan Moses and Josh McMillon before the season even started.
Yeah, so Golding have even more time to coach up his position players and adjust his defense to help them.
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DJ Dale and LaBryan Ray went down early in the season.
We are crazy deep at DL. Find another excuse because this one doesn't fly.
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Those are four starters/major contributors gone and we aren't even into October yet. No Alabama DC in the last 20 years has dealt with that kind of attrition.
That is bullshite and shows either you guys have memories of goldfish or are just blind because of some weird unexplainable affection for Golding.
Previous DC's have lost players, heck in 2017 we lost Terrell Hall-Lewis and Chris Allen before the season started. We then lost Eddie Jackson, Shaun Dion Hamilton and Hootie Jones for the season and dealt with injury issues with Rashaan Evans and others.
Heck in 2017 we only had three players able to start every game on defense; Anthony Averett, Daron Payne and Ronnie Harrison.
Yet you have all these Golding apologist. It's very strange.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:30 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I'm sure you'll get some "but 2017!!!" responses to this but the fact is is that 2017 didn't have to play 2019 LSU, and that defense was deep with experienced players basically at every position.
Oh okay so it was 2019 LSU that put 34 points on us in Jordan-Hare?
Cool story
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:35 pm to YStar
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Yet you have all these Golding apologist. It's very strange.
I'm sorry that Golding coached Alabama to the #3 ranked defense in CFB in 2019. I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Final SP+ Rankings
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:53 pm to prevatt33b
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I'm sorry that Golding coached Alabama to the #3 ranked defense in CFB in 2019.
we all know he did not get that ranking in the biggest games of the year. you know, when we needed it most.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:24 pm to YStar
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Yeah, so Golding have even more time to coach up his position players and adjust his defense to help them.
Not every true freshman is ready to step in and play right away. Some of them take two or even three years to develop into solid starters. In Saban's first 12 years at Alabama he never had more than one true freshman starting in the front seven at any given time. This year....he had four starting in the front seven.
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We are crazy deep at DL. Find another excuse because this one doesn't fly.
Is that why we were starting two true freshmen on the defensive line this year? Because we're crazy deep there?
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in 2017 we lost Terrell Hall-Lewis and Chris Allen before the season started. We then lost Eddie Jackson, Shaun Dion Hamilton and Hootie Jones for the season and dealt with injury issues with Rashaan Evans and others.
- Chris Allen missed the 2018 season, not the 2017 season.
- Eddie Jackson and Hootie Jones were injured in 2016, not 2017.
- Rashaan Evans played in 12 of our 14 games in 2017.
And while we did suffer a few injuries in 2016 and 2017, we could more easily recover back then because we were absolutely loaded on defense. The 2019 defense didn't return near as much depth and therefore we couldn't afford too many injuries.
Unfortunately for us, the absolute worst case scenario played out on both the offensive and defensive sides of the football. Fortunately, however, going forward into 2020 we have an insane amount of depth on the defensive side of the ball. If the defense fails next season, there will be no excuses other than Golding sucks.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:41 pm to crimsontater
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we all know he did not get that ranking in the biggest games of the year. you know, when we needed it most
I know, right. He didn't figure out a way to stop the most explosive offense in college football history, with a banged-up d-line and 2 true freshman at inside linebacker. Crucify him tonight!
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:45 pm to prevatt33b
so you consider giving up 46 points as "stopping" someone? that "stopped" prolific offense also scored 13 points in the 4th qtr. they also shoved it down bamas throat at the end when the defense actually needed a stop. but hey man, if this is your idea of a solid, "stoping" defense, kool. have at it. citrus bowls are fun.
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:15 pm to bamameister
Mack was a 5 star recruit that went in the 5th round. So tell me, do you truly believe that’s the Alabama standard we tell kids?
Also, if you think that because the Cleveland browns believe they got a steal in Mack is validation for him, you sir, are an absolute arse hat.
Also, if you think that because the Cleveland browns believe they got a steal in Mack is validation for him, you sir, are an absolute arse hat.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 12:31 am to crimsontater
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so you consider giving up 46 points as "stopping" someone? that "stopped" prolific offense also scored 13 points in the 4th qtr. they also shoved it down bamas throat at the end when the defense actually needed a stop. but hey man, if this is your idea of a solid, "stoping" defense, kool. have at it. citrus bowls are fun.
Did you even read what I wrote?
Posted on 1/26/20 at 4:59 am to RollTide1987
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Not every true freshman is ready to step in and play right away. Some of them take two or even three years to develop into solid starters.
Especially when their position coach is Pete Golding. Look at Dylan Moses and Mack Wilson's play last year.
Look at how little Shane Lee and Christian Harris grew this year?
Oh and stop the freshman shite. By midseason starting that many games and getting that many reps they aren't considered freshman.. talk much by the end of the season.
We didn't even need them to be prime Reuben Foster. We just needed them to be serviceable and they both weren't. Christian Harris showed flashes but he did from the first game.
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And while we did suffer a few injuries in 2016 and 2017
We didn't suffer a few. It was a laundry list of injuries and unlike this year they were at places we didn't have depth.
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Posted on 1/26/20 at 5:01 am to prevatt33b
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I'm sorry that Golding coached Alabama to the #3 ranked defense in CFB in 2019. I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Final SP+ Rankings
You should be thankful we only played two teams with a pulse because every time we did his defense bent right over and hels their breath.
Bo Nix dropped 34 on us. Bo fricking Nix.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:40 am to YStar
So what is the excuse for Golding going to be this year when the defense gets their shite pushed in despite having Moses and McMillon back alongside experienced players at nearly every position? The only position that will probably be green will OLB/Jack.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:50 am to phil4bama
"CNS thinks highly of him" ...
Tosh, the sequel.
Tosh, the sequel.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 7:53 am to crimson_dej
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Also, if you think that because the Cleveland browns believe they got a steal in Mack is validation for him
Wilson started for the Cleveland Browns and played extremely well. Plenty of all-pro Lbers who didn't sniff the field their rookie season. So, yes, that would be validation. I'm glad we got this chance to have this NFL discussion. If you have any other issues with Bama players, just get back. I'll be there for you.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:24 am to prevatt33b
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I'm sorry that Golding coached Alabama to the #3 ranked defense in CFB in 2019. I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Final SP+ Rankings
Should Golding have gotten Assistant Coach of the Year accolades?
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:36 am to phil4bama
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So what is the excuse for Golding going to be this year when the defense gets their shite pushed in despite having Moses and McMillon back alongside experienced players at nearly every position? The only position that will probably be green will OLB/Jack.
We will most likely have an injury (we do every season) which they will obsess over and make an excuse for why we look lost on half our plays on defense.
Boz or one of the mods should sticky this thread. Seriously.
Crow needs to be eaten on this one.
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:11 am to prevatt33b
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Did you even read what I wrote?
i'm here to say, i misread one word. my bad. mistook didn't for did. my apologies
Posted on 1/26/20 at 9:12 am to 3down10
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Do you have any idea how crazy it sounds to suggest that we should be able to have years with extreme amounts of injuries and still win a national championship?
I can only guess you must be a newer fan because you have no clue what real suffering is.
You’d be completely wrong in your guess. Never did I compare this season to the Dubose, Fran, Shula days. I’m just saying, we have had bad injury luck on defense the last 3 seasons. If that happens again, as unlikely as it is, will Golding be able to handle that better or will it be the same as this season was?
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 9:16 am
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