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crimsontater
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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I've had it since March. It runs pretty flawlessly with a perfect picture. The guide is smooth and easy to use.



this looks like the best of the bunch, at least for my viewing taste. i'll have to get a device to run it tho.



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eric4UA08
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
YouTube TV is so reliable. Great layout. Take it anywhere on your mobile device. And football season will cost you about $200.
I know people are recommending “back door” ways to do this. But seriously, just pay a couple hundred, do it legally, have access to all your channels anywhere you go and just relax. So much easier this way, IMO. Better yet, with YouTube TV, find a friend who lives near you and split the cost.


crimsontater
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Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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YouTube TV is so reliable. Great layout. Take it anywhere on your mobile device. And football season will cost you about $200.



i cant find some very important channels to me on youtube. lol all ya want to. but i love the hallmark christmas movies plus the regular hallmark movies. i dont see any hallmark channels on youtube. have i just overlooked them?


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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YouTube TV is so reliable. Great layout. Take it anywhere on your mobile device. And football season will cost you about $200.
I know people are recommending “back door” ways to do this. But seriously, just pay a couple hundred, do it legally, have access to all your channels anywhere you go and just relax. So much easier this way, IMO. Better yet, with YouTube TV, find a friend who lives near you and split the cost.



Agreed - YouTubeTV is fantastic. The DVR features are insane (no limit, the way it organizes them by show in order like Netflix). It literally has every Braves and Alabama game since 2017 recorded and neatly categorized under one icon on the screen. Great selection of channels. Can cast it to the TV from phone or tablet, watch on phone/tablet/computer. All for $50.

100% recommend.


westide
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Bamala
Member since Sep 2014
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
Anyone using Mediacom? I have had AT&T for a long time. I have thought about ditching Dish Network, but I am not sure if my current internet speed would be sufficient for Hulu or You Tube.


3down10
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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Anyone using Mediacom? I have had AT&T for a long time. I have thought about ditching Dish Network, but I am not sure if my current internet speed would be sufficient for Hulu or You Tube.


You only need about 5mbps max download for most streams.


labamafan
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
Here’s the deal for both of you. I did the same thing and got the orange and blue sling package 45 a month. BUT now that you’re streaming you have limited data usage. I’m in Cox cable here in BR so we’d run out they’d charge an extra 10 for so many added bytes or whatever of data so I ended up having to upgrade my cable service to unlimited which now means I pay 160 plus for internet service and 45 for sling. My bill went from 260-275 a month to 205. The internet companies like COX have adjusted to losing cable customers so they go up on internet service as well as limiting amount of data similar to cell service.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
That sucks - I should have added in that I live in a major metropolitan area (Atlanta - inside the perimeter) with 100 internet options that are all fast. The speed and cost of the speed is not really part of my calculation because competition makes it relatively cheap and abundant.


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prevatt33
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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You only need about 5mbps max download for most streams.


Not true.

First, your advertised internet speed in actually your 'throughput'. Throughput is the maximum speed you could attain in perfect conditions once you get your download going. But really, you need much more than that to have fast, reliable internet.

When you test your internet speed, you'll see your throughput as well as 'ping'. Ping is incredibly important - it's how fast you can send and receive a piece of info to the ISP's server. This is particularly important because this number represents how long it takes to get a download restarted if it's interupted. Well, guess what? Your download, i.e. game stream, can be interrupted several times a minute, or even several times a second. Good internet is going to have a ping under 10. To put it into perspective:

Internet connection 1:
10mbps with ping of 4

Internet connection 2:
100mbps with ping of 160

Internet connection 1 is going to do a much better job of playing your game stream (although I'd prefer a little more than 10mbps to play true 1080p streams confidently).

Additionally, bandwidth is an issue, which is the total number of users a line can support. If your internet comes to your house via coaxial cable, your bandwidth is usually ass. This is why your speed is great at this 2am but sucks at 8pm. Everyone is watching Netflix at 8pm.

Additionally, coaxial cable is significantly affected by static electricity, and so rain affects it tremendously.

I can't really soeak too much on DSL, but I had it in Boston years ago from Verizon and it was ass. Same thing for satellite - no idea what to expect, although weather can be a bastard.

Lastly, there's the issue of the stream itself, which could be hosted anywhere in the world. And it should be obvious that a stream hosted in Atlanta will play better in Alabama than a stream hosted in the Ukraine, assuming all other factors are equal. The info literally has to travel that distance physically. Well, guess what? When talking about streaming games, these streams can be hosted all over the world, and one stream can have very different characteristics than another.

Also, what if you want to watch 2 or 3 games at a tome, or glip between games? 5mbps won't handle that at all.

My strong advice to anyone is: if a company is offering fiber optic internet, meaning a 100% fiber optic line from your modem to their servers, then buy it. It's another level of technology and is simply amazing. You'll receive a higher speed than what you pay for (by a little) and have a near instantaneous ping (under 5), and your speed won't decrease during peak usage hours. It's shockingly fantastic.

And so, in summation, saying '5mbps is enough to play most streams' is just plain wrong, especially if you're talking about HD. I'd really want a minimum of 20mbps and a good ping to feel confident about smoothly streaming a 1080p stream to a large television. A speed of 5mbps will only reliabily play streams that were filmed with a potato. I'm not saying this to argue or get into a pissing contest, but rather to help our fellow consumers.
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3down10
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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Take it anywhere on your mobile device.


This is nice feature over Hulu. Hulu is the opposite of take it anywhere.


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3down10
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
My current internet is a max download of 7.5MBPS and I can easily do 2 streams of netflix at once while still browsing the internet, or 1 stream of hulu and a stream of netflix etc.

I've been streaming at these speeds for years.

I'm not even sure why in the world you are talking about pings when it comes to streaming TV. You don't know what you are talking about. Ping is important for gaming, not streaming.

A ping of 160ms means absolutely fricking nothing for streaming. What does actually matter is dropped packets. Which has nothing to do with speed.

As for gaming and internet, as mentioned ping does matter for gaming - download speeds do not. There is very little bandwidth used for gaming.

The only thing you'd need 20mbps for is 4k.

You are fricking stupid. Please stop replying to me ever.
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Commander Data
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Member since Dec 2016
5613 posts

re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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YouTube TV


So I get local tv, SEC network and ESPN etc with them?


SummerOfGeorge
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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So I get local tv, SEC network and ESPN etc with them?



Yup


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MoarKilometers
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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I can't really soeak too much on DSL, but I had it in Boston years ago from Verizon and it was ass. Same thing for satellite - no idea what to expect, although weather can be a bastard.


Sadly these are my only 2 options... and despite taking billions from our government, at&t did 0 infrastructure upgrades on the dsl in my area. Been at max capacity for half a decade+. So I'm forced to endure the locals at the bar on game day, cause antenna signal is questionable af too

Not to anyone in specific: And why do people say cut the cord? Is your cable internet somehow a different cord than your cable? 9/10 it is not


3down10
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Agreed - YouTubeTV is fantastic. The DVR features are insane (no limit, the way it organizes them by show in order like Netflix). It literally has every Braves and Alabama game since 2017 recorded and neatly categorized under one icon on the screen. Great selection of channels. Can cast it to the TV from phone or tablet, watch on phone/tablet/computer. All for $50.

100% recommend.


How does it do for older TV shows and such?

My biggest reason for going with Hulu is my wife watches off the library of shows. It's basically a lot like netflix, with a different selection. Plus, they have their own shows.

And you can get that library commercial free for $13 without the live TV, which is what I do in the offseason. Going to Live takes the price up to $45. But it's really only about a $30 increase.

If a TV show comes on tonight, you can usually watch it on Hulu the next day or 2 without commercials. She likes those singing shows and we don't even need to pay for live TV, unless you just really have to watch them the night before.

When I tried the trail last year, I didn't really see stuff like that. All I saw was live TV.

But you mention all those old sporting events all neatly categorized and all that and you have gotten my attention.


The Spleen
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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at&t did 0 infrastructure upgrades on the dsl in my area.



I live in a densely populated area of Bham(280/Inverness area) and we still only get U-Verse DSL up to 25mbps in my area. They've been promising Fiber for a couple of years now, but still nothing. Charter is the other option, but everyone I know with it says they have pretty frequent outages and evening slowdowns.

I rarely have trouble streaming to 2 or 3 TVs in the house with just the 25mbps plan, though speed tests show it usually caps at around 17 or 18mbps.

Our hunting camp in fairly rural Etowah County gets faster internet than I do at my house in Bham.


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prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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What does actually matter is dropped packets.


Exactly.

Article - "Understanding packet loss and ping"

Ping is how fast you can get the next packet moving your direction down the line once a packet is dropped. And streaming video and playing video games online are very similar activities.

But per usual, you're too much of an ignorant, stubborn cocksucker to put your ego aside and discuss a topic in a civil manner.

Regarding replying to you in the future, I'll do what I damn well please. If I do, it'll be up to you whether you can see around the dick in your mouth well enough to reply in turn. I really won't give a frick.

From the absolute bottom of my heart, frick you. You're just an absolutely garbage human being. It's like your mother sharted her panties and the result animated into a real boy.

To everyone else reading this, I will not reply aggressively to this frickwad again in this thread and will not be derailing threads because of him. 3down10, you are just not worth it. Literally. But in this post - frick you, you fricking piece of shite.
This post was edited on 7/30 at 1:04 pm


SummerOfGeorge
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Brookhaven-Oglethorpe Station
Member since Jul 2013
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
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How does it do for older TV shows and such?

My biggest reason for going with Hulu is my wife watches off the library of shows. It's basically a lot like netflix, with a different selection. Plus, they have their own shows.

And you can get that library commercial free for $13 without the live TV, which is what I do in the offseason. Going to Live takes the price up to $45. But it's really only about a $30 increase.

If a TV show comes on tonight, you can usually watch it on Hulu the next day or 2 without commercials. She likes those singing shows and we don't even need to pay for live TV, unless you just really have to watch them the night before.

When I tried the trail last year, I didn't really see stuff like that. All I saw was live TV.

But you mention all those old sporting events all neatly categorized and all that and you have gotten my attention.




Well, it is a bit different than Hulu+. It's strictly cable, so, it doesn't have a large catalog of stuff like Hulu or Netflix.

However, if the old show is syndicated somewhere, all you have to do is hit the "+" button on it and it will record every time that show comes on and then categorize it under the show.........and in 3-4 weeks you'll have the entire series laid out by season and episode.

Example - Wife and I have wanted to watch Modern Family for years, but it was never on Netflix/Hulu and I wasn't buying season of it. We got YouTubeTV and I added it as one of my shows. Within about 2 months we had the entire series (plus new eiposes that came on) neatly show up under the show in our shows and we watched it all the way through, all because it is syndicated and 3-4 episodes of it come on a night on USA. It was incredibly easy.

The stuff that is current and you want to watch later is easy - you just add the show to your shows like on Comcast or something, it automatically DVRs it and you can watch whenever you want. And, like Comcast, it's just a recording (not OnDemand), so you can fast forward through the commercials.
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prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2650 posts

re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
Sorry, one more thing: streaming Netflix (a saved movie/tv show file in which the 'future' can be saved) and a live TV event are 2 different activities as they are 2 completely different types of media. But you obviously wouldn't know that. Take care, hoss.


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: So I cut the cord on cable and need help.
FYI - here are some screenshots from my computer just to give you an idea of the logistics of it













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