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Sheridan says Saban gets D- in backup QB management

Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:35 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 1:35 am
“The only criticism I could ever give him as a coach would be, ‘Why don’t you ever play two quarterbacks?’” Sheridan asked one day this week. “‘Why don’t you give your second quarterback mop-up duty when you’re winning 28-0 at halftime? Why don’t you put him in with the first unit when the game matters?

So, lemme get this straight Danny, you would play a backup QB during important minutes instead of your starter, just to develop him?




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Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:14 am to
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‘Why don’t you ever play two quarterbacks?’


no thanks

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“‘Why don’t you give your second quarterback mop-up duty when you’re winning 28-0 at halftime?


true

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Why don’t you put him in with the first unit when the game matters?



no thanks
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 5:23 am to
2010 Iron Bowl
Posted by c-r
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 7:42 am to
Sheridan is thinking of the days when Coach Bryant would play 4 or 5 QBs during a games. Danny, that was the wishbone. Different game.

I quit paying attention to Danny when his mouth ran faster than his brain.
Posted by TheSystem
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:07 am to
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2010 Iron Bowl


Thank you.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:10 am to
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Why don’t you put him in with the first unit when the game matters?


dafuq?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 8:37 am to
Deep down in his heart, Mack Brown will regret never getting Garrett Gilbert any kind of game experience in 2009 until the day he dies.

I'm not so sure putting the backup in when the game matters is a good idea, but I do think our handling of backup QBs is dumb as shite. When is the last time a backup threw the ball more than a couple of times in mopup duty? There's really no purpose in putting them in the game if all they are going to do is call the same 2 or 3 run plays over, and over, and over again.

ETA: And I'm not saying we should try to run up the score. I'm just saying that when we play some team like North Texas or Western Carolina, there's really no point in having AJ in the game for more than 2 or 3 series. Those games are over before they even start, but there's nothing unethical about throwing the ball when you are up 21-0 in the first quarter.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 8:44 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:16 am to
Our coaching staff does a shitty job with the back up QBs. Just about every game the last 5 years has been a blow out, yet everyone but the back up QB gets actual experience. We don't have to play AJ at all in the second half of most games. At least put the back up in the game midway through the 3rd and actually let him run our offense. You don't get experience by handing off. You can do that shite in practice.

ETA: I don't even care if people say we are running up the score. It's their job to stop us, not ours. I'm completely fine passing the ball up 60-0 with 2 minutes left in the 4th. It will only help us get better.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 9:34 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:18 am to
Sheridan gets a F in naming bagmen
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:20 am to
But those games are almost always early in the year when the 1st string needs actual game reps together. Maybe it'll be different this year since we have a veteran, experienced QB who doesn't necessarily need the reps.

And Garrett Gilbert never looked great in following years even when he was getting all the reps. A few extra passes against cupcakes wasn't going to help him going up against an all-time great defense like ours. Mack's screw up was having a true frosh as his back-up; that and trying to run Colt against our D
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 9:25 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:30 am to
Here's some games later in the season where he could have gotten reps.

2011: We beat vandy by 34, ole miss by 45, UT by 31, AU by 28.
2012: Mizzou by 32, UT by 31, MSU by 31, WCU by 49, AU by 49, ND by 28.

Most of these are SEC teams. Not exactly cupcakes.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 9:31 am
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:47 am to
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But those games are almost always early in the year when the 1st string needs actual game reps together. Maybe it'll be different this year since we have a veteran, experienced QB who doesn't necessarily need the reps.



We beat Auburn 49-0 last season a week after playing an FCS team. Then the NCG was pretty much over at halftime.

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And Garrett Gilbert never looked great in following years even when he was getting all the reps. A few extra passes against cupcakes wasn't going to help him going up against an all-time great defense like ours. Mack's screw up was having a true frosh as his back-up; that and trying to run Colt against our D



His screwup was knowing he had a true freshman backup and failing to get him valuable reps so that Colt McCoy could get the stats he needed to win a Heisman. It's not as if he just suddenly realized in the 1st quarter of the NCG that his backup QB was only a true freshman. He knew about it all season and failed to take measures to ensure he was at least somewhat prepared if he ever had to play in a "real" game, i.e. one where the outcome was still in doubt.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:48 am to
IIRC many of those games were a lot closer heading into the 4th quarter. And I think the back-up QBs did play in the other ones where it was out of hand early; they just didn't do much passing because it was out of hand early
Posted by Sandkhan
Member since Jun 2009
8596 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 9:56 am to
If that back up is Blake Sims then I hope we only see him
telling LSU fans to suck it on the sidelines. Mufricka can't throw!
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46378 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:03 am to
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If that back up is Blake Sims then I hope we only see him
telling LSU fans to suck it on the sidelines. Mufricka can't throw!




I think if AJ ever had to miss more than a couple of plays in a tight game we would see Morris. Because yeah, Sims couldn't hit the side of a barn even if he was standing inside of it.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:06 am to
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If that back up is Blake Sims then I hope we only see him
telling LSU fans to suck it on the sidelines. Mufricka can't throw!


All of this.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:27 am to
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they just didn't do much passing because it was out of hand early
Then the only purpose of playing them was to make sure AJ didn't get hurt. Letting him hand off doesn't help prepare him at all.

Letting the back up throw when the game is out of hand is ideal. Then if he makes a mistake, no one cares.

I believe we could have let the back up play the entire 4th quarter of all of those games.
This post was edited on 6/14/13 at 10:30 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73410 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 10:52 am to
Ely and Sims played a good bit in blow outs last year. Sheridan is a tool. He has been a hater since his inside information was cut off after Fran left.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46378 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:49 am to
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Ely and Sims played a good bit in blow outs last year.


No they didn't.

They attempted 14 passes.....COMBINED. All they ever did was handoff left, handoff right, and handoff up the middle. I could do that. Neither of them was ever going to be a starter or anything, so it's not like it matters, but whoever the backup is this year really needs to get some game experience actually running the offense, and not just handing off to the 4th and 5th string RBs a dozen times until the clock runs out.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73410 posts
Posted on 6/14/13 at 11:51 am to
It is still logging minutes. Hell, A.J. only attempted 48 passes as the clear backup in 2010.
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