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re: Saban and the players handling this, well, just like you'd expect.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 4:03 pm to CAbamafan
Posted on 8/9/18 at 4:03 pm to CAbamafan
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Saban should've told Jalen he was entering the Spring as the second-team QB. End of story.
So Saban should have done something that goes against his very philosophy? See....this is why no one takes your opinions seriously.
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Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:02 pm to CAbamafan
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Hopefully this "non-issue" doesn't rear its ugly head down the road, and that includes Saban putting Jalen on the field in order to appease him.
The idea that Nick Saban would ever make any decision...whether it's which QB to play or which coffee to have in the pot in the football offices...for any reason other than put the team on the best position to win football games, is pure stupidity, or else the view of someone who literally has never watched or listened to Nick Saban.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 6:35 pm to TidalSurge1
If you feel that way, Jalen oughta be ripping into his parents.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:17 pm to CAbamafan
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1. Saban is completely ignorant when it comes to the QB position, and honestly still hasn't figured out what seemingly everyone else has
Right...the man who picked McCarron over P.Sims, B.Sims over Coker, Coker over Bateman, and Hurts over Barnett is completely ignorant about the QB position...
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2. Saban is afraid of upsetting Jalen.
Right again...Saban looked real afraid of upsetting Jalen when he benched him at halftime for Tua on the biggest stage of the year...
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That's it.
Not remotely. Have you considered that maybe he wants to keep both QBs in the fold and therefore won't name the starter yet to keep both players fully vested? I'm sure there are other plausible reasons as well. For whatever reason, most of the talking heads agree that not naming the starter this early is smart on his part...and most of those also believe it will be Tua when he does...
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:35 pm to OldPete
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Not remotely. Have you considered that maybe he wants to keep both QBs in the fold and therefore won't name the starter yet to keep both players fully vested?
In other words, he's afraid of upsetting Jalen.
At this point, idk how Jalen could be any more disappointed. But, I agree, for whatever reason, Saban is still unwilling to break the news to Jalen that Tua is looking like the starter.
This post was edited on 8/9/18 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:50 pm to CAbamafan
If Tua is going to be a first year starter, he needs to be taking all the first team reps he can get, not splitting them. Earlier this shakes out the better.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 7:56 pm to BamaGradinTn
Haters gonna hate. 
Posted on 8/10/18 at 4:13 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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If Tua is going to be a first year starter, he needs to be taking all the first team reps he can get, not splitting them. Earlier this shakes out the better.
Exactly. If Saban plays them both equally the first few games allowing Jalen to run all over subpar defenses instead of getting Tua much needed reps for later in the year I may have to question his sanity again. I am sure Tua won the team last year and that is his biggest measuring stick on who the quarterback is. Maybe he really is too concerned with Jalen's feelings.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:31 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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If Tua is going to be a first year starter, he needs to be taking all the first team reps he can get, not splitting them. Earlier this shakes out the better.
I'm all for Tua being named the starter sooner rather than later, and I do not want a QB battle to spill into the season.
Having said that, even in situations where there is a clear starter and clear backup, the 1st team reps are split 60/40 or 75/25 depending on the coaching staff, and this is necessary to have your 2nd QB ready if the starter goes down.
Remember Gilbert coming in for Texas and being thoroughly unprepared? Well, they should've given him more practice reps with the ones and played him more in garbage time.
No starting QB under Saban has gotten "all the first team reps" as you put it, and it would be a terrible idea to do so. I believe that Saban is a 60/40 guy during the season: 1st and 2nd team QBs get game installation and take it to the field, and split first team reps 60/40. Third team and lower do not receive game installation beyond the meeting room, as their isn't enough time in the day and week.
All of our 2nd teamers will get some time with the 1s, and QB is no different.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:50 am to BamaGradinTn
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pure stupidity, or else the view of someone who literally has never watched or listened to Nick Saban.
Well, you certainly outed two of the posters in this thread.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:07 am to BamaGradinTn
Glad that the coaches and players are better at filtering out non-issue bullshite than our fans are
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:22 am to prevatt33
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Having said that, even in situations where there is a clear starter and clear backup, the 1st team reps are split 60/40 or 75/25 depending on the coaching staff, and this is necessary to have your 2nd QB ready if the starter goes down.
Sorry but you are wrong. He has never gave the backup any meaningful playing time outside of blowouts. The backup has always came in middle third quarter or so to run out the clock. Tua got more playing time last year than any prior backup I remember. Jalen doesn't need 40% of the snaps to be able to take over when he has two full seasons or 29 games of starting experience. If he plays Hurts that much this year it will be because he is just endeared to the kid and wants to make him happy. It is his team so he can play who he wants but he doesn't have a history of playing with two quarterbacks and I hope he doesn't start a new trend this year. Tua is light years better but he is still raw so he needs all the game reps he can get early so that he is ready for the defense he will see from LSU and Auburn. Even MSU and A&M will be challenging for a new guy.
Saban already knows and the fans know what we are going to get from Hurts. Against below average defenses he will make some huge runs and complete easy short completions or hit a deep pass to a wide arse open receiver. Why even play him early when you know he is gonna have to ride pine in November and beyond? If he trots Hurts out there early then it can only mean he does not want to hurt his feelings. We all know that playing Jalen Hurts will not gives us the best chance to win. Nobody wants to second guess our goat coach about his decisions but if he doesn't name Tua the clear cut starter after camp when the depth chart is released then he is clearly just playing favoritism to a player he really likes. We are ready for the Hurts era to officially end. frick being politically correct about it. Bring on Tua and let's unleash the full potential of this offense. My body is ready.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:32 am to Commander Data
I'm pretty sure he was talking about practices, not actual games.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:50 pm to Centinel
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pretty sure he was talking about practices, not actual games.
Ok well that makes more sense but here shortly that should change as well unless Hurts has drastically gotten better.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 2:47 pm to Commander Data
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If he trots Hurts out there early then it can only mean he does not want to hurt his feelings.
Exactly, but honestly he's already doing this. Daboll knew Tua was better early last November. I'm pretty sure Saban knows too, but he keeps playing this out, and won't move Jalen to the 2s because he's afraid of hurting his feelings.
If it gets to the point where this nonsense carries over into the season, it'll be pretty shitty. I don't think it will, but who knows.
I'm hopeful that by the second scrimmage, Tua is getting most of the work with the 1s
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/10/18 at 3:47 pm to CAbamafan
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Tua is getting most of the work with the 1s
Should already be happening right now imo. Saban has watched Hurts for two and a half years and seen him get out played by low 3 star Mac Jones in the spring. With that said, I don't think I am wrong but Saban has more knowledge in his left nut than this entire forum put together. He has a plan.
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:48 pm to Commander Data
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Saban has more knowledge in his left nut than this entire forum put together.
He certainly has 1000x more technical knowledge, but if it were up to me, Tua would've been starting by last October, we would've gone undefeated last year, and have zero QB drama right now
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 8/11/18 at 5:09 am to CAbamafan
I am with you. It would be terrible to play a generational defense against Clemson in the playoffs and not have Tua playing up to full potential because Saban felt like he owed playing time to Hurts. The best player plays.
Posted on 8/11/18 at 8:29 am to John Milner
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In spite of reports on some of these boards that Tua turned it over a lot in practice,
I know people think this is a joke and or not true but, it is.
I love Tua kid has it all but, last year in the practices I watched he forced the ball a lot. Against guys like Minkah Fitzpatrick, Anthony Averrett, Ronnie, Etc. It was easy pickens for guys of that caliber. Tua just wanted to ball, he’s a gunslinger it happens. He threw 1 in natty, and 1 that probably could have gone either way (thank god it didn’t).
As far as Jalen and Tua goes, Jalen is probably going to take some snaps in the first few games. We shall see.
Posted on 8/11/18 at 8:38 am to CrimsonBoz
Last year is over anyway and thankfully it turned out ok.
I hope your insinuation that Tua will be the first team qb from the first game is correct. I think that would certainly be best, rather than alternating series like I suggested that I thought might happen in the first game or two.
RTR
I hope your insinuation that Tua will be the first team qb from the first game is correct. I think that would certainly be best, rather than alternating series like I suggested that I thought might happen in the first game or two.
RTR
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 8:40 am
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