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re: Replace This With The Basketball Off-Season Thread
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:11 pm to BigBird09
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:11 pm to BigBird09
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Based off of what evidence?
Bucky and Pett don't have a monopoly on recruiting and building relationships
Likely will hire someone with connections to SE but with Mattas history he probably knows guys who fit the bill
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test that out with Auburn on the rise
Thanks to Saban/FB Rivalry, most top recruits in AL don't give AU any instate bump.
For example, for someone like John Petty we are fighting with the UKs of the world to try and steal him from instate Bama
On top of that, AU targets ATL only 1.5 hr away, not BHam/N Alabama where instate talent is 3-4 hrs away
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eye isn’t just on the state, but the entire southeast.
This is basketball recruiting where you only need 3-4 guys per year on average and players willing to relocate. Coaches easily can recruit nationally
If Bama could hire a coach who could reliably grab 1 top tri state NY recruit that would be just as valuable as an AL ace recruiter
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:16 pm to Rolltide10
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friend of mine just told me Matta said no. Anybody else hearing this?
Mark Titus, former Matta player, said on his podcast that he didn't think Matta would take a job this year, especially outside the Midwest
Also keep in mind there seems to be offset language in his contract buyout from OSU
So taking say $4mil is really paying him only an additional $1mil or so since OSU would pay him less
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:29 pm to GenesChin
But that’s going to apply anywhere he goes and until the contract/buyout runs out. So He either wants to coach again or he doesn’t but that stuff shouldn’t be a factor.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:32 pm to GenesChin
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Bucky and Pett don't have a monopoly on recruiting and building relationships
Apparently I need to catch up on some sleep. I thought your post was saying Alabama doesn’t need any connections to land the in-state group.
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This is basketball recruiting where you only need 3-4 guys per year on average and players willing to relocate.
I’m down with recruiting more nationally, but Alabama is not a school in which it’s going to be easy to pull top 100 kids from around the US with any sort of regularity. The kids we’d pull nationally are probably going to be the more underrated guys, which I’m totally okay with. It would, however, be nice to lock down the few high-profile guys from the state and surrounding areas.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:51 pm to BigBird09
The suspense is killing me, especially because there are a number of directions we could go. I can't concentrate on my writing and all I'm doing is basketball research.
The next football search will kill me.
The next football search will kill me.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:14 pm to HempHead
Guys if we land a good coach I do think we get Watford. And if we land Watford we are going to have 3 5* guys in our startling lineup(Trendon,Kira, and Petty) Plus 2 4* guys that were top 50 players(Mack and Giddens). Thats a decent squad with a real coach that can actually develop the kids.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:12 am to mistaken4193
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Giddens
Giddens has been in CBB for 4 years, including 1 under Thad Matta, and still doesn't know how to properly set a screen
I'm not sure 1 year is enough time for even Greg Popovich to develop him into a respectable player
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
Surely plans to recruit the SE entered his mind when he interviewed for Uga last year.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:57 am to GenesChin
Think it is best for Bama fans to let this play out just like Byrne said. We are all excited about particular guys but there is a lot that goes into this and it may take a little longer than expected and maybe be someone nobody is anticipating
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:45 am to Bear88
Just know guys if this takes another week it is because his target or targets are still playing this weekend.
I saw a tweet the other day where Mark Few was Greg Byrne's coach back in the day. Not sure if Mark would leave but I bet he has reached out to Mark for some names.
I saw a tweet the other day where Mark Few was Greg Byrne's coach back in the day. Not sure if Mark would leave but I bet he has reached out to Mark for some names.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:30 am to mrbroker
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JUST RECORDED A PODCAST WITH DREW @DrewChamplin IF YOU WANT TO KNOW A STRONG FRONTRUNNER IN THE ALABAMA BASKETBALL COACHING SEARCH, GO TO THE 13 MINUTE MARK
Mark Jennings thinks Greg McDermott should/could get the job.
I’m taking this with a huge grain of salt.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:31 am to Bear88
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but there is a lot that goes into this and it may take a little longer than expected
You can read the Aubie board where in year 3 and early year 4, Auburn fans were questioning Bruce Pearl as a coach
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:37 am to Chadaristic
I’ve learned that Mark Jennings is 99% troll. I’m pretty sure he’s not serious about that
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:39 am to GenesChin
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With the news that Alabama and Avery Johnson are parting ways, the Crimson Tide is now in need of a new men’s basketball coach for the 2019-20 season. Below, BamaOnLine has put together a preliminary hot board for potential candidates to replace Johnson in Tuscaloosa, Ala. The coaching candidates at Alabama are listed in alphabetical order.
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Beard is in his third season at Texas Tech and has led the Red Raiders to two straight NCAA Tournaments, including this year. In 2017-18, Texas Tech advanced to the Elite Eight with Beard as head coach. He has posted a 72-30 (31-23 Big 12) record in three seasons, including a 27-6 record up to now. A native of Marietta, Ga., Beard’s prior head coaching experience includes Little Rock, Angelo State and McMurry. As of April 1, he has a hefty buyout of $12,389,015.
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Brannen has been at Northern Kentucky for four seasons and guided the Norse to two NCAA Tournament appearances, including this year. In his first stint as a head coach, Brannen has led NKU to an 81-51 overall record and a 45-27 mark in Horizon League play. A former assistant coach under Anthony Grant at Alabama and VCU, including two games as interim head coach when Grant was fired, Brannen is familiar with Tuscaloosa and the Tide basketball program.
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A native and alum of Cincinnati, Cronin has been the coach of the Bearcats since 2006. Over that period of time, Cincinnati has made nine consecutive NCAA Tournaments, including this year. Cronin was the head coach at Murray State prior to his current job, and in his two stints as a college head coach, he has compiled a 365-170 record. He has also been an assistant at Louisville and Cincinnati. Losing in the first round, his buyout as of April 1 sits at $2.2 million.
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Davis just completed his first season at Detriot Mercy where the Titans posted an 11-20 record. But the former Alabama player has plenty of coaching experience on his resume. His first head coaching gig was at Indiana, where he was an assistant from 1997-2000. Davis coached the Hoosiers for six seasons before being fired. He then bounced to UAB where he coached for six more years before he was let go. Davis also served as an assistant at Alabama (1995-97) after playing for the Tide -- one year under CM Newton and then three under Wimp Sanderson.
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Forbes is in his fourth season at ETSU where he has led the Buccaneers to a 100-39 record. He has also been the head coach at Northwest Florida State. Forbes has a combined record of 230-72 as a head coach. But he also has some impressive experience as an assistant. Since 1998, he has held positions at Wichita State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Illinois State, Louisiana Tech and Idaho. Having coached in the SEC always helps, and his record speaks for itself.
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A native of Ames, Iowa, Hoiberg was a star player at Iowa State and played seven seasons in the NBA. After his professional playing career ended, he started his professional coaching career at his alma mater in 2010, and in his four of his five years at Iowa State, Hoiberg led the Cyclones to the NCAA Tournament. That’s how he landed the Chicago Bulls job, but that only lasted three and a half seasons. He’s now on the market and will be a top name for many.
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Kennedy is currently serving as a television analyst for the SEC Network, but he last spent 12 seasons coaching at Ole Miss before resigning in 2018 before the season ended. He landed the Ole Miss job and guided the Rebels to a 245-156 record and an SEC Tournament championship after one year as the head coach at Cincinnati. He also held assistant jobs at Cincinnati, UAB and South Alabama. Kennedy’s playing career was split between both NC State and UAB.
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Matta is the third candidate on our list that isn’t currently coaching anywhere at the moment, but he has one of the more impressive resumes of the group. Matta’s last coaching stint was at Ohio State where he coached the Buckeyes for 13 years and nine NCAA Tournament berths, including a trip to the Final Four in 2011-12. Prior to his stop in Columbus, Matta was the head coach at Xavier (2001-04) and Butler (2000-01). In June of 2017, he agreed with Ohio State to step down due to his health issues. That will be something that factors into his candidacy.
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Oats is in his fourth season at Buffalo and has the Bulls in their third NCAA Tournament during his tenure. Buffalo won its first-round game to advance to the Round of 32 after it posted a 31-3 record leading up to the big dance. Getting the head coaching job after Bobby Hurley left for Arizona State, Oats has led the Bulls to an overall record of 97-42 (35-20 MAC). With a buyout of $2,449,000, Oats will be a top name with several other programs looking for a head coach.
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This would be the most controversial hire Alabama could make, but there’s no questioning the kind of coach the Crimson Tide would be getting in Pitino, who currently doesn’t have a job in the United States. Pitino led prominent programs in Kentucky and Louisville to national titles in 1996 and 2013, respectively. He also coached the New York Knicks and Boston Celtics. In 2017, Pitino was fired after federal prosecutors announced the school was under investigation for an alleged “pay for play” involving recruits at Louisville. He comes with a lot of baggage, which might be too much to overlook, but again, he would be a big-time basketball hire for UA.
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A 1997 graduate of Alabama, Prohm worked as a student assistant coach and student manager for the Crimson Tide for five years, which included two NCAA Tournament appearances and one trip to the NIT Final Four. In four years at ISU, he has led the Cyclones to three berths in the NCAA Tournament, two Big 12 conference tournament championships and an 83-53 (35-37 Big 12) record. Prior to Iowa State, Prohm was the head coach at Murray State for four years and posted a record of 104-29 with one NCAA Tournament berth. With his season now over, Prohm will likely be at the top of Alabama’s list to replace Johnson. He has a buyout of $3,481,250.
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Sampson has Houston in the NCAA Tournament for the second consecutive season, something he has accomplished 15 times in his head coaching career. Prior to his current 5-year run with the Cougars, Sampson was the head coach at Indiana (2006-08), Oklahoma (1994-06) and Washington State (1987-94). While at Indiana and Oklahoma, however, Sampson was involved in some recruiting violations that were investigated by the NCAA. Those haven’t occurred in his time at Houston. He also served as an assistant for the Milwaukee Bucks and Houston Rockets.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:44 am to Chadaristic
Not a Bball wizard, but best options would be Matta then Sampson.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:44 am to Chadaristic
If we are seriously considering Mike Davis or Andy Kennedy there's a big fricking problem. Like I said earlier, I'd rather just give the job to Pettway on the 1 in 1000 chance he ends up being great than hire a guy we know for a fact won't be worth a damn.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:46 am to Chadaristic
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Forbes is in his fourth season at ETSU where he has led the Buccaneers to a 100-39 record. He has also been the head coach at Northwest Florida State. Forbes has a combined record of 230-72 as a head coach. But he also has some impressive experience as an assistant. Since 1998, he has held positions at Wichita State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Illinois State, Louisiana Tech and Idaho. Having coached in the SEC always helps, and his record speaks for itself.
Still near the top of my list. And, assuming another school doesn't also go after him, I have to think all we have to do is offer him the job.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:46 am to Chadaristic
I can’t believe Mike Davis is even on the freaking list. He’s gotten worse as his career went on. Last 2 years have been 20 loss seasons too. What a joke
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:51 am to Teague
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Still near the top of my list. And, assuming another school doesn't also go after him, I have to think all we have to do is offer him the job.
If Matta and Hoiberg aren't interested he'd be #3 on my list. Unless Beard is actually a possibility, in which case I'd rather have him than anyone else who has been mentioned. I don't think that's realistic though. TTU has taken care of him and his buyout is huge. He'd only be using us to leverage a raise.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 7:54 am to Robot Santa
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If Matta and Hoiberg aren't interested he'd be #3 on my list. Unless Beard is actually a possibility, in which case I'd rather have him than anyone else who has been mentioned. I don't think that's realistic though. TTU has taken care of him and his buyout is huge. He'd only be using us to leverage a raise.
Yeah, I'd have Matta ahead of him, and some unrealistic guys, like Donovan. I don't know a lot about Hoiberg, but I think I'd probably put him up there too.
But, of the guys that would almost certainly say "yes", Forbes is my favorite.
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