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re: Rank the starting QBs of the Saban Era (minimum two games)

Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 4:07 pm to
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McCarron was a great QB, but he had all kinds of muscle on the roster with him back when physical dominance was a bigger part of the game.


I mean, from 2010 onwards Alabama QBs enjoyed a plethora of offensive talent the likes of which had never been seen before in the history of our program. Just look at how talented the 2018 Alabama roster was on the offensive side of the football when Tua was the starter:

Tua Tagovailoa (1st round pick)
Mac Jones (1st round pick)
Josh Jacobs (1st round pick)
Najee Harris (1st round pick)
Jerry Jeudy (1st round pick)
Henry Ruggs III (1st round pick)
DeVonta Smith (1st round pick)
Jaylen Waddle (1st round pick)
Alex Leatherwood (1st round pick)
Jonah Williams (1st round pick)
Jedrick Wills (1st round pick)
Jalen Hurts (2nd round pick)
Irv Smith Jr. (2nd round pick)
Damien Harris (3rd round pick)
Jerome Ford (5th round pick)
Ross Pierschbacher (5th round pick)
Deonte Brown (6th round pick)
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4305 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 5:44 pm to
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I mean, from 2010 onwards Alabama QBs enjoyed a plethora of offensive talent the likes of which had never been seen before in the history of our program. Just look at how talented the 2018 Alabama roster was on the offensive side of the football when Tua was the starter:

I think winning the 2011 and 2012 national titles required less of the QB than the 2009, 2015, and 2017 national titles. The 2011 and 2012 teams played in an era when being physically overpowering was a bigger part of the game.

Later Alabama championship teams may have had better receivers, but they also faced better offenses and were pressured to score more with the passing game.

I think there's a reason why McCarron was drafted in the fifth round and has been a journeyman backup - while Tua, Hurts, Mac, and Young are 1-2 round draft picks and established starters.
Posted by Maurice42223
Member since Jan 2024
3 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 5:59 pm to
I personally don’t believe so. Because it’s not like Bryce was the reason we lost to LSU and TN. He basically carried the team. If our D had performed better we would’ve won a championship. It’s a shame he couldn’t get one before leaving.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
475 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:41 pm to
A.J. was the best leader, we win in 2013 without a cheat job by refs. There were 20 horrible calls i that game, plus Saban going for it in 4th 1, with 6 minutes left, at the 7, up 7, IMHO, that was him planning on going to Texas and his head was not clear.

I do not like the Shotgun on every danged play, to me its stupid. Tua came in green, with no one expecting him to play (Clemson) and won the natty, but against Clemson in the title game he was very bad, in 2019, he was hurt a lot, he finally understands in the NFL you have to have a 3-4 second clock, but need the ball gone in 2 really. Else little QBs get hurt.

He would be 3 behind Jones, because Jones had the best season ever to me. Bryce would have won a title if not for the two WR getting injured on game day. I think Milroe is going to undersand, hes going to have to improve a lot to keep his job under Deboer.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:23 am to
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He was not the most physically gifted QB at Alabama but he was a better competitor and smarter than most of these QBs under Saban.


Not disagreeing with you, but one could say something similar about McElroy. The guy did win an SECCG MVP. I'd have him above JPW.
This post was edited on 1/21/24 at 10:25 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 10:29 am to
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JPW - 2008 remains one of my favorite seasons, but it ended without hardware and an embarassing loss to Utah.


Imagine an OC learning the morning of a big game that his All American center and another starting OL are out.

That OC was Major Applewhite, who then proceeded to use JPW to absolutely take the great John Chavis to the woodshed.
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Udûn
Member since May 2014
6977 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 11:51 am to
I wonder what Bryce’s stats would Look like if he had the receivers Mac and Tua had. And wasn’t hamstrung by BOB as OC.

Regardless, I don’t know of any other program that can match the string of quarterbacks we had. Jalen to Tua to Mac to Bryce. Not even Miami or USC had a string of QB’s like that.

Before this stretch, there were only 2 Bama quarterbacks that started in the NFL that I can remember. Rutledge started a few games in the 80s after
Leading an insane comeback as the backup (I was too young
To remember him playing at Bama) and then the cup Of coffee Brodie had in the NFL. Technically Stabler Started some Games In the NFL during my lifetime, but I was too young To know/remember.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9672 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 3:19 pm to
Stabler, Namath, Bart Starr. All three super bowl winners.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14644 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 4:21 pm to
A healthy Tua would have rewritten record books. Biggest “what if” of the Saban era imo
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