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re: Question for the anti Milroe crowd

Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:51 am to
Looks like he’s finding the whole and navigating traffic pretty well to me
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Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
17909 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:57 am to
You're making some people and a lot of trolls in this board mad with all these posts

Relax!

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 8:58 am to
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You should be suspended from the board for posting something so dumb.


What I said is correct. He's fast, so he's dangerous if he gets some space. The problem is his lack of field vision. It doesn't disappear just because he's not throwing the ball. He often makes bad decision while running.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:01 am to
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Looks like he’s finding the whole and navigating traffic pretty well to me


Yes, he does great when designed runs work correctly. He also does great when the first option on a passing play becomes open.

The problems happen when these things aren't there.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:03 am to
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The problems happen when these things aren't there.

Well that’s a pivot from “he’s not that dangerous of a runner because of his poor vision”

I, nor anyone that I’ve seen, has claimed that he has Manziel magic
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:11 am to
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You're making some people and a lot of trolls in this board mad with all these posts


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:11 am to
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Well that’s a pivot from “he’s not that dangerous of a runner because of his poor vision”


No, it's the exact same statement. He doesn't need vision when the first read works. He's great at running plays, as written, when the play works perfectly and the first read is there.

That's not nothing, but we'll need more than that to win anything of significance. If he's our best option, we need him to fix that issue. I hoped that would have happened over the off-season.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:21 am to
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That's not nothing, but we'll need more than that to win anything of significance.


He was the QB last year when Alabama beat the #1 team in the country and won the SEC title.

Good lord people can't remember things for more than 10 seconds.

"Duurrrr, Alabama can't never win nothing with Milroe"
"What about winning the SEC Championship and beating the #1 team?"
"Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:27 am to
Here's Milroe's best run to me from Saturday:

LINK

He runs the read option, does the right read, gets to the open field and waits for the blocker to make a block and then turns on the jets, bowls over a defense, and then gets out of bounds for a 25 yard gain.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:52 am to
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No, it's the exact same statement. He doesn't need vision when the first read works. He's great at running plays, as written, when the play works perfectly and the first read is there.

I’m just confused why we’re comparing him to Barry Sanders and Shaun Alexander. But then all the context is about him going through reads and making plays when things break down. Which is more scrambling and less designed runs

I don’t think you’ll catch anyone here saying that he is a great scrambler or that he is great at working a muddy pocket and using his athleticism to make plays in the passing game. Frankly because he’s not. Nor is he particularly creative. But on designed runs I’m seeing patience and block reading
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:55 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
27771 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:52 am to
The short dumpoff passes on 3rd down and long where the targets had to jump to catch the ball and had no chance to make a first down were annoying.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
25730 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:06 am to
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coach on earth is pulling their starting QB in a close game just to give the backup experience in a high pressure situation.


No I get that but in some of our overmatched opponents it would be nice to see him get a couple of series in the first or second qtr when we’re not up by 3 TDs
Posted by Bravo Crimson
Florence
Member since Feb 2017
214 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:01 pm to
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But, it's natural for non-cheerleaders to point out areas of concern.


Main question: with his flaws, what's the answer?
Posted by Bravo Crimson
Florence
Member since Feb 2017
214 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:07 pm to
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I don’t think you’ll catch anyone here saying that he is a great scrambler or that he is great at working a muddy pocket and using his athleticism to make plays in the passing game. Frankly because he’s not. Nor is he particularly creative. But on designed runs I’m seeing patience and block reading


Forget about that run to a touchdown last year after bad snap do ya?
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
15325 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:22 pm to
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Are you really so dumb that you can't grasp what people criticize about him?

He has flaws. They may or may not bite us in the arse when we finally face a good defense. We'll see. But, it's natural for non-cheerleaders to point out areas of concern.

I read his post and I don't think it mentioned pointing out areas of concern. It did mention people suggesting he should be benched, which is a position that is pretty hard to have based on facts alone. The former is totally acceptable, the latter is ridiculous.
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1077 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 3:53 pm to
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anti Milroe crowd


Wait, we have fans that think this team would be better with someone other than Milroe? LOL
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4892 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:29 pm to
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we have fans that think this team would be better with someone other than Milroe?


Yep, they are Ty Truthers. Somehow they have acquired extremely keen QB scouting ability & have declared Ty Simpson is superior to Milroe based on evidence none of the rest of us have ever seen. If you ask for this evidence, they just make general criticisms of Milroe.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:46 pm to
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I’m just confused why we’re comparing him to Barry Sanders and Shaun Alexander.


I didn't do that.

quote:

I don’t think you’ll catch anyone here saying that he is a great scrambler or that he is great at working a muddy pocket and using his athleticism to make plays in the passing game. Frankly because he’s not.


That's all I've been saying, and I think it's pretty clear people here completely disagree with that assessment.

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But on designed runs I’m seeing patience and block reading


I'm not sure we can call it "block reading" on designed runs. He runs where the play was designed for him to run. Oftentimes even if the blocks aren't there.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58566 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 4:55 pm to
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He was the QB last year when Alabama beat the #1 team in the country and won the SEC title.

Good lord people can't remember things for more than 10 seconds.

"Duurrrr, Alabama can't never win nothing with Milroe"
"What about winning the SEC Championship and beating the #1 team?"
"Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"


Sure, if we want to focus on only one game. It's hard to imagine anyone claiming Jalen Milroe wasn't a complete liability in a number of games last season. We were very fortunate to win the Auburn game, for example, and should have never needed late game heroics to win that one.

Those are the kinds of games we cannot have against good teams, and I'm not seeing improved decision making in that regard.

I couldn't care less about "beating the number 1 team." I want to win national championships. That's what Alabama does.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
2067 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 5:27 pm to
Did he have any turnovers against Auburn? No. You’re not making any sense.
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